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UTUSN

(70,740 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:56 PM Oct 2013

DERSHOWITZ said Ted Carnival CRUZ was his student and very smart, very principled *BUT*

This was him talking to Geraldo last night, presumably while Geraldo was in the pre-lonely-drink-&-torso-selfie phase.

DERSHOWITZ said without *any* irony, with a straight face although he was smiling, the smart-principled thing, BUT he went on to say that Carney is wrong about everything he has been doing, wrong about interpreting the Constitution, wrong in tactics and methods.

He said Carney would "walk into my classroom with his right hand raised and kept it there all the time" --- HUH?!1

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DERSHOWITZ said Ted Carnival CRUZ was his student and very smart, very principled *BUT* (Original Post) UTUSN Oct 2013 OP
Dershowitz has gone off the cliff. FarPoint Oct 2013 #1
He went off the cliff years ago when he endorsed torture as a legitmate tool of interrogation Orrex Oct 2013 #8
Yes...I agree... FarPoint Oct 2013 #12
There is a name for students like that - the ones who always have their hands up. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #2
Ted has already admitted to doing shit like that...deliberately spreading misinformation ahead magical thyme Oct 2013 #3
that handmade34 Oct 2013 #16
oopsie, you're right. magical thyme Oct 2013 #20
*Chortle* NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #4
We called them 'gunners' nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #5
We called them "pre-meds" GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #7
I call them insecure... handmade34 Oct 2013 #18
What awful people! LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #9
I went to law school with people like this. madaboutharry Oct 2013 #15
I think all law schools attract a certain number of these The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #21
We had book/resource hiders, too. One is still around and stilled loathed by fellow attorneys. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #23
Dershowitz is wrong about everything. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #6
Thatr means you like Ted Cruz and what he stands for because Dershowitz doesn't. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #11
Yes, everyone around here knows about my unwavering support for Cruz. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #19
Did he actully say that about Carney or are you mistyping? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #10
Dershowitz is an awful human being LittleBlue Oct 2013 #13
Fear of failure colors everything else. Usually parents instill this in their children by.. Tikki Oct 2013 #14
Who is "Carney" in the OP? Does the OP maintain that the Press Secretary is wrong, per Dersh, LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #17
I aske the same thing, I did not come up with Carney Cruz ie Carnival.... Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #22

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
8. He went off the cliff years ago when he endorsed torture as a legitmate tool of interrogation
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:18 PM
Oct 2013

The Dersh has left the building.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,837 posts)
2. There is a name for students like that - the ones who always have their hands up.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:08 PM
Oct 2013

"Springbutts." When I was in law school in the late '70s we had a game called "Springbutt Bingo." The required classes were pretty large, but before long we (the "normal" students) figured out who all the Ted Cruzes, the "Call on me, Professor, I know, I know!" characters were. So some of us devised Bingo cards with the names of a random selection of these guys (they were all guys), and every time the prof called on one of them we'd check off their name. Just like with regular Bingo, you won when all the names on your card were checked, and the winner would say "Bingo!" in a loud stage whisper. I didn't go to Harvard, but if they played Springbutt Bingo there I bet Ted's name was on all of the cards.

We hated those guys, but interestingly, they didn't always get the best grades. One of them would routinely hide or move certain important reference books just before exams so nobody else could find them (this was in pre-computer days, when all we had was books. Made of paper.). He actually bragged about this. I wonder if Ted did shit like that?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
3. Ted has already admitted to doing shit like that...deliberately spreading misinformation ahead
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:11 PM
Oct 2013

of exams, so fellow students would focus on studying the wrong stuff.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. *Chortle*
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:11 PM
Oct 2013

I know this behavior, so happy that you described it so well.

Indeed, they aren't the brightest, not by a long shot, but they are "first in class" in some regard.

Cheers!

GoCubsGo

(32,093 posts)
7. We called them "pre-meds"
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:16 PM
Oct 2013

Where I went to college, the pre-med student were like that, too. We even had some who broke into a prof's office and stole the final exam.

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
9. What awful people!
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:19 PM
Oct 2013

I always wanted my friends to do well; I didn't care either way about the other people. I've never really understood ultra-competitive people. I don't like being around them at all.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,837 posts)
21. I think all law schools attract a certain number of these
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:28 PM
Oct 2013

insanely competitive characters. They were the guys (probably some women by this time, too) who you knew had worn suits and carried briefcases to class in college (maybe even high school), probably were poli-sci majors, thought they were smarter than everybody else and made sure you knew that. No doubt most of them either went into politics or became hedge fund managers.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
13. Dershowitz is an awful human being
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:22 PM
Oct 2013

A racist and torture supporter. Sick old man whose views shouldn't be publicized outside of right-wing media.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
14. Fear of failure colors everything else. Usually parents instill this in their children by..
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:22 PM
Oct 2013

constantly comparing them to others and/or criticizing even a child's best efforts.

Daddy issues.


Tikki

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
17. Who is "Carney" in the OP? Does the OP maintain that the Press Secretary is wrong, per Dersh,
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:23 PM
Oct 2013

or is "Carney" supposed to be a nick name for Ted "Carnival" Cruz?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. I aske the same thing, I did not come up with Carney Cruz ie Carnival....
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:29 PM
Oct 2013

that's some good thinking.

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