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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:28 PM Oct 2013

Paul Krugman savages Greenspan- "The Worst Ex-Central Banker in the World"

Steven Pearlstein reads Alan Greenspan’s new book, and discovers that Greenspan believes that he bears no responsibility for all the bad things that happened on his watch — and that the solution to financial crises is, you guessed it, less government.

What Pearlstein doesn’t mention, but I think is important, is Greenspan’s amazing track record since leaving office — a record of being wrong about everything, and learning nothing therefrom. It is, in particular, more than three years since he warned that we were going to become Greece any day now, and declared the failure of inflation and soaring rates to have arrived already “regrettable.”

The thing is, Greenspan isn’t just being a bad economist here, he’s being a bad person, refusing to accept responsibility for his errors in and out of office. And he’s still out there, doing his best to make the world a worse place.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/20/the-worst-ex-central-banker-in-the-world/?_r=0

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Paul Krugman savages Greenspan- "The Worst Ex-Central Banker in the World" (Original Post) n2doc Oct 2013 OP
The guy personally met and loves Ayn Rand Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #1
He didn't just meet her. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #17
"Alan Greenspan needs to create a housing bubble to replace the Nasdaq bubble" - Paul Krugman 8/2/02 Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #2
Krugman. The Conscience of a Liberal. Stands behind his convictions. He is a Liberal. libdem4life Oct 2013 #3
Warren / Krugman 2016 !!!!! nt Cryptoad Oct 2013 #18
Ugh Bobcat Oct 2013 #4
I tuned in late to see Andrea gazing into his eyes. Didn't know he was also a musician and monmouth3 Oct 2013 #8
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #5
Greenspan should be looked at in the same way people viewed Herbert Hoover. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #6
At least Hoover did some useful stuff after he screwed up on the Depression starroute Oct 2013 #19
Read Matt Taibbi's book, Griftopia trumad Oct 2013 #7
I agree gopiscrap Oct 2013 #9
+ 1 russspeakeasy Oct 2013 #12
thank you!!! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #13
kevin philip's 2006- american theocracy blasted greenspud. pansypoo53219 Oct 2013 #10
Kevin Phillips is someone I admire and respect, and I need to read more SheilaT Oct 2013 #24
"Bad Money" was probably his best. Fuddnik Oct 2013 #30
Andrea Mitchell should have him on to discuss. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #11
they'd both fall asleep in each other's company gopiscrap Oct 2013 #14
As you would expect Paulie Oct 2013 #27
Ha ha that's pretty funny gopiscrap Oct 2013 #29
Any central banker worth a plug nickel would have not done... roamer65 Oct 2013 #15
He's Read Atlas Bores, That's All He Needs To Read Wolf Frankula Oct 2013 #16
Another secondvariety Oct 2013 #20
Greenspan was on NPR the other day, still running "No serious observers forecasted the crisis." alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #21
NPR has joined the rest of the propaganda outlets Enthusiast Oct 2013 #23
they have always been there, VOA's domestic partner reddread Oct 2013 #33
Kicked and Recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #22
Greenspan = DUH MindMover Oct 2013 #25
It's almost as if he's trying to pull a Ronnie Reagan dementia act to escape blame and gain sympathy leveymg Oct 2013 #26
But Greenspan admitted that his model did not work malaise Oct 2013 #28
I read a piece awhile back where Greenspan stated that he learned that toby jo Oct 2013 #31
Bad economist, bad person ... JEFF9K Oct 2013 #32
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. Krugman. The Conscience of a Liberal. Stands behind his convictions. He is a Liberal.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:43 PM
Oct 2013

Thank you, sir. There are still Liberals that are attempting to hold the space. (at least how this old time Liberal sees it) The growing Progressive movement and the crumbling Tea Party are our partners in this shift. The political, cultural and economic pendulum to the Right has paused and now starts it's starting back. Not a moment to soon.

Bobcat

(246 posts)
4. Ugh
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:52 PM
Oct 2013

CBS Sunday Morning did a puff piece on Greenspan this morning. It was an obvious attempt to humanize and rehabilitate him and his reputation as an economist. No mention of his support for continued tax cuts for the rich, no mention of the many errors he has made.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
8. I tuned in late to see Andrea gazing into his eyes. Didn't know he was also a musician and
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:22 PM
Oct 2013

from what I gather he didn't either. So he decided to be an economist instead. We all suffered..

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
6. Greenspan should be looked at in the same way people viewed Herbert Hoover.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:58 PM
Oct 2013

He was a terrible failure, and nobody should be asking his opinion about anything, unless they plan to do the opposite of whatever he says.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
19. At least Hoover did some useful stuff after he screwed up on the Depression
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:11 PM
Oct 2013

Although there was a lot of bitterness between him and Roosevelt, he got along well with Truman, played a role in the reconstruction of the German economy after World War II, and chaired a couple of commissions to reduce inefficiency in the executive departments.

Hoover had started out as a mining engineer, and though his technocratic approach didn't match the overall needs of the nation, he was competent enough within his own sphere.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
7. Read Matt Taibbi's book, Griftopia
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:00 PM
Oct 2013

He tells you all you need to know about Douchebag Greenspan.

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
9. I agree
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

that's why every time I see that shit head Andrea Mitchell on TV I feel like puking...you can just imagine how impartial she is!

pansypoo53219

(20,995 posts)
10. kevin philip's 2006- american theocracy blasted greenspud.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:41 PM
Oct 2013

it warned us. unfortunately part 1 of the book great, sadly part 2 BORING + nobody read the MOST IMPORTANT part 3 that WARNED of the coming bubble. shit. i saw the bubble forming in 2004. i met several people who stopped at part 2. i told them to READ part 3. sadly i read it in 2008.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
24. Kevin Phillips is someone I admire and respect, and I need to read more
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:05 PM
Oct 2013

of his books. He needs to be all over the airwaves because he is genuinely thoughtful in his perceptions and analyses. He used to be on NPR regularly, but that was years ago.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
30. "Bad Money" was probably his best.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 11:42 AM
Oct 2013

He exposed just how politicians distort economic data, such as unemployment figures , and CPI.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
15. Any central banker worth a plug nickel would have not done...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:49 PM
Oct 2013

what Greenspan did in 2001-02. We were due for a recession and you drop interest rates at bit but do not drop them so low as to create another bubble. All the QE, zero interest rates, unemployment and nearly destroyed housing market we now have can be laid at the footsteps of Easy Al and Bu$h.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
16. He's Read Atlas Bores, That's All He Needs To Read
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:51 PM
Oct 2013

Alan the Paranoid Randroid, Mr. Irrational Exuberance when the Democrats rule the roast, Mr. Hopeful Goodcheer when the Rethuglicans are borrowing the country into the poor house.

Every prospective economic official ought to be asked about being a Randroid. If He/She says they are, they should be immediately disqualified.

Wolf

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
21. Greenspan was on NPR the other day, still running "No serious observers forecasted the crisis."
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:25 PM
Oct 2013

It was such an obnoxious falsehood that even the thoroughly milquetoast NPR host had to call him on it, though her point seemed to be "Yes, well, some non-serious observers did forecast it."

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
26. It's almost as if he's trying to pull a Ronnie Reagan dementia act to escape blame and gain sympathy
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:48 PM
Oct 2013

Unless of course he really was never REALLY any smarter than the Gipper,and just as committed to RW economic nostrum. I wouldn't discount that possibility.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
31. I read a piece awhile back where Greenspan stated that he learned that
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 04:12 PM
Oct 2013

"my mistake was in thinking that the rich would let the money trickle down" or something to that effect. I was impressed that he admitted making a mistake, but god almighty it was a pretty effin big one.

I knew a man once of his generation, he's gone now. But he had the same misperception going. He always insisted that money was better off in the hands of the wealthy because they were good people and gentlemen and would take care of things.

A shared naivety. I hope it's been put to rest.

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