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elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:22 AM Oct 2013

Cruz' undeclared Cayman "investment". 6K magically becomes 100K (or more).


Oops forgot to declare it. Like anyone would FORGET the brilliant geniousness of his own financial acumen.

Why hasn't he offered to invest the US' money? With returns like that, we could fix the debt and have dough left over.

I LOVE how they're now referring to the Caymans as The BVI (sure, it's accurate, but I guess "Cayman" sounds dicier.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/18/ted-cruz-failed-to-disclose-ties-to-jamaican-holding-company/
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Cruz' undeclared Cayman "investment". 6K magically becomes 100K (or more). (Original Post) elehhhhna Oct 2013 OP
Crooked snake-oil flim-flam man. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #1
Tom Delay in the making Skink Oct 2013 #2
I bet Fox news will jump all over this.. The empressof all Oct 2013 #3
Did you say Cruz' undeclared Cayman "investment" of $6k magically became $100k or more? silvershadow Oct 2013 #4
I can understand forgetting financial matters. Why, just the other day I could have sworn my... BlueJazz Oct 2013 #5
Like finding a $20 in your coat pocket from last winter. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #6
Cayman is not B.V.I. jberryhill Oct 2013 #7
The magic ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #8
The returns on his investment don't seem to be the shady part starroute Oct 2013 #9
"sweet opportunity" means "bribe" and or "money laundering" elehhhhna Oct 2013 #13
Not necessarily, I don't think starroute Oct 2013 #14
Reminds me of l'il bush and his Arbusto, Spectrum 7, and Harken investments. nt. Mc Mike Oct 2013 #10
The myth of the "Tea Party average Joe" is a joke. They're all rich. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #11
Crooked mother fucker gopiscrap Oct 2013 #12
Caribbean Cruz'in flamingdem Oct 2013 #15
Shit, I'll totally vote for Ted if he lets me in on this investment Hippo_Tron Oct 2013 #16
The Cayman Islands are not part of the British Virgin Islands. City Lights Oct 2013 #17
ain't it amazing? daybranch Oct 2013 #18
Let me get this straight... Diego_Native 2012 Oct 2013 #19
Is this the same guy that said Cruz was a smelly, terrible roommate? groundloop Oct 2013 #20
No n/t malaise Oct 2013 #21
"You American Proles can just eat shit and die." - Teh annoinTED Un (R - Chosen) Berlum Oct 2013 #22

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
3. I bet Fox news will jump all over this..
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:35 AM
Oct 2013

NOT!!!

Personally though I think it's time for some tar and feathers for the boy.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
4. Did you say Cruz' undeclared Cayman "investment" of $6k magically became $100k or more?
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oct 2013

This should be spread far and wide, and I hope authorities are digging deeper.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
5. I can understand forgetting financial matters. Why, just the other day I could have sworn my...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oct 2013

...bank account was $ 645.47 ...and then I checked and it was a quarter of a million dollars and some change.

Who knew ?? My bad.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
6. Like finding a $20 in your coat pocket from last winter.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:48 AM
Oct 2013

Multiplied many, many times over, in a foreign country.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Cayman is not B.V.I.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:01 PM
Oct 2013

The Cayman Islands, consisting of Grand Cayman, Cayman Brac and Little Cayman, is an autonomous overseas territory of the UK, in what can be generally called the British West Indies.

The British Virgin Islands is a separate jurisdiction consisting of different islands entirely.

While you will sometimes see "B.W.I." with Cayman, they are not the British Virgin Islands by a long stretch.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. The returns on his investment don't seem to be the shady part
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:37 PM
Oct 2013

I've followed a few other threads on this and googled on it myself. As nearly as I can tell, he got a sweet opportunity through a former college roommate to become an initial investor in a company started by some very brilliant and enterprising people in Jamaica.

There's nothing illegal about that -- though it does go to show what sort of privileges accrue to the already privileged. But it's what happened afterwards that looks a bit strange -- how the investment could turn into a promissory note (do I have that right?) that he could then leave sitting for years and forget all about.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
13. "sweet opportunity" means "bribe" and or "money laundering"
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:48 PM
Oct 2013

and I stand corrected, BVI's are different island tax havens, sorry Caymans!!!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
14. Not necessarily, I don't think
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:03 PM
Oct 2013

The members of the ruling class do favors for one another all the time. It comes as naturally to them as breathing. I don't believe they even think of it as bribes. Bribes are something you use to control hirelings. Favors are things you exchange with equals.

I don't think enough attention has been paid to Cruz's snobbism -- his refusal to study with anybody who hadn't done their undergraduate work at Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. There's a real stream of old-fashioned aristocratic entitlement there. Perhaps he comes by it naturally through his Cuban background. But whatever it is, it isn't just his personal narcissism. It's part of the circles in which he travels. In his own mind, he's part of the nobility, and the rest of us are peons.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
16. Shit, I'll totally vote for Ted if he lets me in on this investment
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:07 PM
Oct 2013

With those kinds of returns I wouldn't have to contribute a dollar more to my retirement, and I'm in my 20's.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
17. The Cayman Islands are not part of the British Virgin Islands.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 06:26 PM
Oct 2013

Their attempt at sugar coating this is a big 'ol cup of FAIL.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
18. ain't it amazing?
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

Congressman are so much better at investing than the rest of us? Think he gets a little help and maybe it is a self fufilling prophesy. Have you ever looked at the insider trading of Congressmen or how they can influence contracts to help their investments-- just sayin??

19. Let me get this straight...
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 03:14 PM
Oct 2013

...in 1998 he "invests" $6,000 and three years later takes a $25,000 cash payment and a $75,000 promissory note on a company that apparently hasn't done any business since 2001?

I would love for a forensic accountant to take a look at that business arrangement. If it ain't illegal, they may have just solved every debt crisis in the world.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
22. "You American Proles can just eat shit and die." - Teh annoinTED Un (R - Chosen)
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 03:40 PM
Oct 2013

"Frankly, me and my RepubliBagger Cronies don't give a shit what you peeONS think. We are RepubliCons, and thus we are special. We are entitled to make a fat freaking killing with some fast-action Money-Bucks shit going down in the Scammer ISLANDS. So you American proles can just STFU, eat shit, and die. In a Blessed WAY, of course."

- Teh annoinTED Un (R - Chosen)

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