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Want to educate some of the people you know about wealth in this nation? (Original Post) Skidmore Oct 2013 OP
Kick this to your colleagues. Widest possible exposure would be great. Scuba Oct 2013 #1
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #2
This is now the second time, chervilant Oct 2013 #3
Reagan Legacy SoutherDem Oct 2013 #4
Sorry, almost nobody is going to watch a somber 6-minute video about wealth distribution. (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #5
Well you never know until you try. Skidmore Oct 2013 #6
Less-well produced, but still-useful information on the distribution of income taxes JHB Oct 2013 #7
Very well made seveneyes Oct 2013 #8

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
4. Reagan Legacy
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:31 AM
Oct 2013

The video said this started 20-30 years ago, in other words Reagan's 8 years plus Bush's 4.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
6. Well you never know until you try.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:50 AM
Oct 2013

I sent it out this morning an I've had three people contact me since after watching it. Just throwing up you hands and giving up is no way to teach.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
7. Less-well produced, but still-useful information on the distribution of income taxes
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 11:52 AM
Oct 2013
Borrowing this from a post I made back in March:
Most discussion of tax history mentions the top marginal rates of the past (91% in the 50s, 70% in the 60s and 70s, 50% through most of Reagan's presidency, etc.)

I like to highlight a different aspect: leaving aside what the rates were, where did they kick in? We live in times where people argue "are couples who make $250K 'rich'?" "Should we raise taxes on people who make over $250K? Over $500K?"

Where did these sorts of things lie in the past?

Using the inflation adjusted historical tax bracket tables from The Tax Foundation for married couples filing jointly, let's break it down a little and find out the equivalents in 2012 dollars:

1945:
Total number of brackets: 24
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 14
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 9
Top bracket affects income over: $2,551,044

1955:
Total number of brackets: 24
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 16
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 11
Top bracket affects income over: $3,426,776

1965:
Total number of brackets: 25
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 13
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 8
Top bracket affects income over: $1,457,740

1975:
Total number of brackets: 25
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 9
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 5
Top bracket affects income over: $853,509

1985:
Total number of brackets: 15
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 1
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 0
Top bracket affects income over: $360,650

1995:
Total number of brackets: 5
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 1
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 0
Top bracket affects income over: $386,423

2005:
Total number of brackets: 6
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 1
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 0
Top bracket affects income over: $383,773

2013:
Total number of brackets: 7
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 2
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 0
Top bracket affects income over: $440,876

Special Bonus Gipper edition numbers:
1988:
Total number of brackets: 2 (No, not a typo. Two brackets)
# of brackets only affecting income over $250K: 0
# of brackets only affecting income over $500K: 0
Top bracket affects income over: $57,738
(There was a reason why Poppy Bush had to go back on his 'Read My Lips' line -- this rate was so low it was unsustainable (naturally, they crucified him for it). And every RWNJ wants to go back to this, or lower...)

ALL income tax progressivity for very high incomes was eliminated under Reagan, and has stayed that way ever since.



Let me repeat that last part:
ALL income tax progressivity for very high incomes was eliminated under Reagan, and has stayed that way ever since.

Brackets reached up into the equivalent of millions today. (heck, between 1936 and 1941 the top bracket kicked in at (inflation-adjusted) incomes in the ballpark of $80 million). That had been eroded by inflation, but it was cut off at the ankles under Reagan.

There are plenty of details that can be argued, but the basic structure worked for people trying to get ahead. Now it works for those who already are.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3684083
 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
8. Very well made
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:14 PM
Oct 2013

The best solution would be to eliminate the greed gene. The only other alternative is to make an upper limit or a law to distribute some of that excess back down the chart.

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