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rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:40 AM Oct 2013

Chris Matthews Letting Fly on MSNBC

Post speech, Chris Matthews sure said a mouthfull on MSNBC. I don't have quotes and am paraphrasing here, but he hit the nail on the head when he said the group that are against our President think they are 'more American' and 'more Patriotic' than the people who voted for him. Chris said that they discount President Obama's 2 victories because the people who voted for him are 'just minorities' and live in the cities and they are 'less American' and 'less patriotic' than the small minority that are so against him and anything he does. Chris believes we'll be doing this all again in 90 days, not because the small radical minority wants the country to be better, but because they hate President Obama so much. Did my heart good to listen to him, although what he said made me sad.

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Chris Matthews Letting Fly on MSNBC (Original Post) rustysgurl Oct 2013 OP
Chris Matthews is right when he's right. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #1
Which sadly, ain't often. n/t dorkzilla Oct 2013 #6
The other night BentleyJD Oct 2013 #49
Ugh, I KNOW I heard that and laughed so hard I thought I'd pass out! dorkzilla Oct 2013 #50
For example he just said that the President is weak on immigration enforcement. grantcart Oct 2013 #8
And horribly wrong when he's wrong. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #10
Another example... ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #27
At what point in his rant did he begin hawking his book? bullwinkle428 Oct 2013 #2
Nice catch! Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #54
That's his second most annoying feature. NCLefty Oct 2013 #62
LOL ... Actually he didn't rustysgurl Oct 2013 #3
Welcome to DU, rustysgurl! calimary Oct 2013 #35
And respected the will of the people, who voted Reagan in as president. cui bono Oct 2013 #55
He was right... SummerSnow Oct 2013 #4
It was a thing of beauty. City Lights Oct 2013 #5
3 pointer is a great reference flamingdem Oct 2013 #23
Didn't see it, but I'm sure it, too, was a thing of beauty! nt City Lights Oct 2013 #36
Actually, what he said hit the nail on the head, but I do not think this will repeat itself in 90 lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #7
That kind of separation will be near impossible considering Boehner announced that there was bushisanidiot Oct 2013 #9
perhaps, but when you had a senator essentially take over the speaker's job, no matter what boehner lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #12
I think if America learned anythibng during this, it is Boehner can not be trusted. Bandit Oct 2013 #16
Although he did say that 2 1/2 years ago, so we shall see. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #32
Boehner is correct on that score. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #42
You're right, but I think it's more because it will be closer to the election. n/t Dawgs Oct 2013 #13
someone said today that when we have to deal withthis again, it will be 2014 and the looming CTyankee Oct 2013 #14
Don't bet the farm on it not happening again Jack Rabbit Oct 2013 #33
I don't know Cosmocat Oct 2013 #47
He's been slipping on the brass knuckles lately, for sure. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #11
Good rant, but dont turn your back on him. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #15
Did he manage to say all that without pimping his new book? Paladin Oct 2013 #17
Sometimes, the bandwagon slows down seveneyes Oct 2013 #18
I just really like the show he's on.....Alex Wagner......love her. a kennedy Oct 2013 #19
Remember Palin's "real Americans" speech? eissa Oct 2013 #20
Tweety gets on and takes over everyone else's show BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #21
Maybe he talks a lot but what he says is true and steps on Rethug throats...hard! Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #30
He also steps on Democrats throats...hard! BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #40
He's only saying what intelligent have known for a long, long time... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #22
Did he get a tingle over Cruz? flamingdem Oct 2013 #24
He's was going on about him not that long ago, about how Obama joeybee12 Oct 2013 #29
On Alex Wagner's show, he called Cruz really "hot". BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #41
Ted Cruz would not be hot even if he was on fire...nt joeybee12 Oct 2013 #43
LOL BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #45
Patriotism Rogerichard Oct 2013 #25
I call it the Lapel Pin Principle... AnneD Oct 2013 #34
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #56
Welcome to DU. nt TBF Oct 2013 #61
i like a well caffeinated Chris Mathews. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #26
Yes - Alex Wagner - love her too; smart and sassy cilla4progress Oct 2013 #28
Just once I'd like one of these cable guys to properly call out the Republicans BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #31
TOTALLY!!! THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!! calimary Oct 2013 #37
Still, he cannot let others talk question everything Oct 2013 #38
Matthews in a self-centered talk show host. anniebelle Oct 2013 #39
Let Chris Matthew loose with one question directed at a GOPer. randome Oct 2013 #44
I agree w/ Matthews.....but... blackspade Oct 2013 #46
Don't care what that fuck wad says ...and never will. Wrote that fuck off a long time ago. L0oniX Oct 2013 #48
He did tell it like it is yesterday, Cleita Oct 2013 #51
And those who would shut down our government and default on its debt are Jesus-loving, indepat Oct 2013 #52
The TEA/GOP is punishing the whole county for electing an African American President. Sedona Oct 2013 #53
I hope the front five rows of the audience were wearing raincoats n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #57
does anyone have a link to video for this? nt IronLionZion Oct 2013 #58
A sailboat with no tiller = Chris Matthews L0oniX Oct 2013 #59
It took me a couple years to believe it - TBF Oct 2013 #60

BentleyJD

(438 posts)
49. The other night
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:40 PM
Oct 2013

After the useless Ed Randell said he had a lot of personnel respect for Boner Tweety replied that Boner reminded him of Winston Churchill
Haven't been on this site for a long time
tony and guidedog lido

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
50. Ugh, I KNOW I heard that and laughed so hard I thought I'd pass out!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:45 PM
Oct 2013

So...you've been hiding out, eh? Hopefully you'll stick around for a while, though I take a break every once in a while too.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
8. For example he just said that the President is weak on immigration enforcement.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:05 PM
Oct 2013

Which of course is not true.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
62. That's his second most annoying feature.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:10 AM
Oct 2013

Interrupting people who are actually making good points is his first.

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
3. LOL ... Actually he didn't
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:44 AM
Oct 2013

It wasn't until they were saying goodbye that the other moderator (don't know his name) brought it up (with a picture).

calimary

(81,511 posts)
35. Welcome to DU, rustysgurl!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:29 PM
Oct 2013

Glad you're here! That's technically true. But he's all over his new book, everywhere.

Thing is, though, the theme of the book actually happens to be remarkably relevant to the discussion now - how opposing positions in Washington USED TO be able to work together somehow. Nobody was more oppositional, agenda-wise, than reagan and Tip O'Neill. But somehow they got along and respected each other. Or at least Tip O'Neill respected the office of President enough to accord that same level of respect to whoever occupied that office, whether friend or foe. We don't have that anymore. How many GOPers in the House and Senate actually respect President Obama? Their behavior LOUDLY telegraphs that they don't. (And they're just plain ol' Sore Losermen ASSHOLES if you ask me.)

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
55. And respected the will of the people, who voted Reagan in as president.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:31 PM
Oct 2013

This bunch doesn't care what the people want, just what they want and it's all based on irrational hatred and disregard for any rules or decorum, it's an infantile "I want what I want when I want it" attitude that comes with the infantile methods that are the equivalent of throwing a tantrum.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
5. It was a thing of beauty.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:52 AM
Oct 2013

He also said PO nailed his speech...hit the right tone, etc. Said it was a "3-pointer."

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
7. Actually, what he said hit the nail on the head, but I do not think this will repeat itself in 90
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:04 PM
Oct 2013

days. Because of what happened most of the republicans are going divorce themselves from the tea baggers. That will take some time for them, but the process has started because of the disastrous results that happened.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
9. That kind of separation will be near impossible considering Boehner announced that there was
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:07 PM
Oct 2013

that there was "no daylight" between the tea party and the republican party.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
12. perhaps, but when you had a senator essentially take over the speaker's job, no matter what boehner
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:10 PM
Oct 2013

may say to the public, he and the republican party was directly being threatened by the tea baggers. If they do not do something, their party will become obsolete


Bandit

(21,475 posts)
16. I think if America learned anythibng during this, it is Boehner can not be trusted.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:26 PM
Oct 2013

He doesn't really speak for his Party or the House. He is spoken to and then he does as he is told..

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
42. Boehner is correct on that score.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:07 PM
Oct 2013

The abyss the Teabaggers dragged the Republican Party into is so deep they can no longer see daylight.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. someone said today that when we have to deal withthis again, it will be 2014 and the looming
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:21 PM
Oct 2013

mid terms will cast a big shadow, that wasn't the case recently.

It seems to me that this is a big opportunity for Dems. We have to hammer home to the general public what the RW tea baggers actually DID, not just what we thought theywould do. Now we have actual proof of what you get when you think they are offering anything of value to you. Plenty of people were hurt by this whole episode and their stories are out there. It'll be hard for the RW to refute the real facts...altho they will try, of course...

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
33. Don't bet the farm on it not happening again
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:03 PM
Oct 2013

I recall how our esteamed colleague, The Magistrate, abandoned what he called his "too stupid to do" test in the dark years of the Bush Junta because "there is nothing too stupid for them to do."

Never trust a Republican who's addicted to Koch.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
47. I don't know
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

They MAY avoid blowing up the debt ceiling again, but I think unless something miraculous happens in budget negotiations between now and then they won't be able to stop themselves from having another government shutdown.

This is scorpion and frog stuff ...

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
40. He also steps on Democrats throats...hard!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:05 PM
Oct 2013

He's a damn weathervane and manages to triangulate any argument back to something that praises his own egotistical self because only he knows best.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
22. He's only saying what intelligent have known for a long, long time...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

I'm hesitant to give him accolades for this when next week he'll be mooning over Ted Cruz again.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
29. He's was going on about him not that long ago, about how Obama
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:56 PM
Oct 2013

had met his match with Cruz...talk about delusional.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
34. I call it the Lapel Pin Principle...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:04 PM
Oct 2013

The bigger the pin...the less principled/patriotic (name your country) they are. Just like a cowboys belt buckle-the bigger the size, the less endowed.

cilla4progress

(24,777 posts)
28. Yes - Alex Wagner - love her too; smart and sassy
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:55 PM
Oct 2013

Did anyone else catch it when Tweety chastised Karen Finney (I think it was) who flipped it to him about hawking his book? I guess she went too far for him!

He's very entertaining, bloviated ego and all! He thinks quite highly of himself!

BeyondGeography

(39,383 posts)
31. Just once I'd like one of these cable guys to properly call out the Republicans
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:58 PM
Oct 2013

The last two Democratic Presidents have been treated the same way; you could say Obama has had the worst of it, and you could also say he's just getting the end result of tactics that have naturally evolved (or devolved) with the help of RWNJ telecom networks and the Supreme Court. Personally, I think we could elect a Democrat named Whitey McWhite and they'd be selling Randian racist bullshit to their increasingly narrow base and doing whatever they could to frustrate and undermine him. The Republicans are a disaster for America. Full stop.

calimary

(81,511 posts)
37. TOTALLY!!! THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:33 PM
Oct 2013

For heaven's sake - look at how they're talking impeachment again now. AGAIN??????? What? We're moving toward the fourth quarter of a two-term Dem, so that means bring on the impeachment crap again???? AGAIN??????? Zat all you've got, assholes? Ooops - the clock on the wall says time for impeachment. You did it with Bill Clinton. Now you wanna bring it back up with Barack Obama? Is that the default position every time a Demcrat of any sort or color or category gets into the White House? Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.

And they called OUR side Sore Losermen.

question everything

(47,537 posts)
38. Still, he cannot let others talk
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:44 PM
Oct 2013

He interrupts his guests, and he would not let the host - Thomas Roberts, I think - finish a question.

And, of course, hawking his book. On this program and later, on Alex Wagner's NOW.

Wonder whether all the MSNBC hosts got a directive to invite Matthews to "talk" about his book.

anniebelle

(899 posts)
39. Matthews in a self-centered talk show host.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:01 PM
Oct 2013

I saw him on ColbertReport a couple weeks back and when Stephen asked him who he thought was the better president, Reagan or Obama, Matthews spits out Reagan. Anybody that any sense of history knows what a conniving, lying, race baiter he really was. They built him up in their little fantasy world so now he looks nothing like the nasty, vengeful, grade-B actor that he was. He was the start of all this race baiting, belittling people that were so destitute they had to turn to welfare, tried his best to destroy all unions and workers' rights and on and on it goes. Part of his staff wound up in jail. Oh, and get this, now they have their own talk shows.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
44. Let Chris Matthew loose with one question directed at a GOPer.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:14 PM
Oct 2013

"How are you going to make up this 24 billion dollars you pissed away? Huh? How are you going to do that? What's your plan?"

Go, Chris!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
51. He did tell it like it is yesterday,
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:53 PM
Oct 2013

but I couldn't help but think about the years he spent with Republican tools on his show tearing down the Clintons and other elected Democrats he had a bone to pick with.

All I could think of was he was partially responsible in bringing the country to this with the help of the rest of the librul media and now he doesn't like the beast that emerged when the egg hatched.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
52. And those who would shut down our government and default on its debt are Jesus-loving,
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:01 PM
Oct 2013

God-fearing patriots who love America. Right. Got it.

TBF

(32,102 posts)
60. It took me a couple years to believe it -
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:54 AM
Oct 2013

but they really are THAT racist. Obama is a conservative guy (in my view) and many of the things he has signed, Lily Ledbetter and LGBT rights aside, are straight out of the republican arena. NOT teabaggerati arena (as that is a whole new world of crazy), but Obama definitely supports the free market.

So, what else could possibly make them so crazy against him? That's right, color of his skin. This is very blatant and anyone who doesn't see it really is kidding themselves.

I looked up demographics and found out that African Americans comprise 13.6 percent of the total U.S. population (Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmcensus1.html#ixzz2i5LOMG21). You don't get elected twice in this country with only 13.6% of the population in your corner. Many of us of varied backgrounds voted for Obama because he was simply the better candidate and we generally support him. Well, I don't support some of the policies - TPP is most worrisome right now - but generally when I look at capitalism and helping the most people that I can with my vote I picked the best choice offered.

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