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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:40 PM Oct 2013

A few words in praise of the President of the United States

Folks here are well aware by now that I am not one to go ZOMG OBAMA IS SO OSSUM very often. I voted for him twice, but never once fooled myself into thinking the panacea for all that ails us had been elected, and I have considered it my sworn duty as a citizen to kick him in the ass when circumstances warrant it.

That being said, President Obama has taken a hail of shit for his hands-off approach to Congress over the last five years. He needs to glad-hand, he needs to press the flesh, he needs to work the room, lather rinse repeat.

Fuck that. I see the method of the man in this latest eruption more clearly than ever. To say he should be more like Lyndon Johnson, who was famous for his ability to work members of Congress, is to have a catastrophically Derpy understanding of history, in that you dare to compare the Congress members of Johnson's day to the goddam meth-addled barn swallows we endure now. No and no and no.

Mr. Obama's bargaining tactics during this crisis, in short:

Oct. 1: No. Fuck you.

Oct. 3: No. Fuck you.

Oct. 6: No. Fuck you.

Oct. 10: No. Fuck you.

Oct. 12: No. Fuck you.

Oct. 14: No. Fuck you.

Oct. 16: Please proceed.

Never interfere with a perfectly good train wreck.

Kudos, Mr. President. I'll be all over your ass tomorrow, but for tonight, I am glowing with pride over those two votes I gave you. Very well done, sir.

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A few words in praise of the President of the United States (Original Post) WilliamPitt Oct 2013 OP
Well said mcar Oct 2013 #1
Hahaha! I was planning on stealing the bit about beerandjesus Oct 2013 #63
Hear, hear. libdem4life Oct 2013 #2
The fight is not over, Will scheming daemons Oct 2013 #3
thanks scheming.. We need to Win Back the House. 2014! Cha Oct 2013 #9
And An approiate Message to ALL the GOP A-Holes..... Left Coast2020 Oct 2013 #17
Oh man.. I love that song.. you should make it an OP right fucking Cha Oct 2013 #19
check out how united we have been over this extortion attempt Skittles Oct 2013 #4
He finally stood by a hard line and good things followed. pa28 Oct 2013 #5
BINGO. And a tip of the hat to PBO. chimpymustgo Oct 2013 #72
"goddam meth-addled barn swallows we endure now" was the winner for me. Kudos is correct..n/t monmouth3 Oct 2013 #6
+++++ mopinko Oct 2013 #30
God, that was brilliant Ishoutandscream2 Oct 2013 #33
Agreed. nt stopwastingmymoney Oct 2013 #39
Every goddam meth-addled barn swallow has his day. Kennah Oct 2013 #52
The President is not the only one who has done very well. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #7
Yep. You said it. tblue Oct 2013 #51
I'm glad he held firm pscot Oct 2013 #8
If he had shown some of this toughness ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #43
If Hillary has to win with only 65% of the vote, I can live with that. Kennah Oct 2013 #53
Sometimes I disagree with you...but not tonight! Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #10
Kick & rec! octoberlib Oct 2013 #11
He hung tough. Good on him. Jester Messiah Oct 2013 #12
Well said and agreed n/t OhioChick Oct 2013 #13
fie!! ellennelle Oct 2013 #14
Only the meth-addled ones. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #15
He got tired of having sand kicked in his face.. kentuck Oct 2013 #16
My favorite Ted Cruz picture Bucky Oct 2013 #71
the teathugs have been chastened heaven05 Oct 2013 #18
My Offer is This: Nothing ProSense Oct 2013 #20
"Please proceed." It's the perfect way of dealing with the GOP. They'll do it all for you. nolabear Oct 2013 #21
It's called "hoisting them on their own petard". DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #37
Kudos to you WilliamPitt New Orleans Strong Oct 2013 #22
LOL!!!! "Never interfere with a perfectly good train wreck." meti57b Oct 2013 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #24
I can't remember the exact quote... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #25
Napoleon i believe. skamaria Oct 2013 #75
Good on ya, Will NastyRiffraff Oct 2013 #26
"meth-addled barn swallows"... dchill Oct 2013 #27
I will by the morning. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #28
Not to worry... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #32
Well said William! Crewleader Oct 2013 #29
The baggers condensed an entire year's worth of FAIL into a two week stretch Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #31
Bringing new meaning to the term "Like a boss.."! Moostache Oct 2013 #34
He always seems like the only adult in the room munster69 Oct 2013 #35
Meth-addled barn swallows?? ladym55 Oct 2013 #36
This f'd up gov. shutdown debacle did much to divide & expose the RW'ers for who they are/ aren't. hue Oct 2013 #38
It certainly was clear who were the adults in the room, wasn't it? Especially the President. calimary Oct 2013 #40
Woo woo!! Politicub Oct 2013 #41
I can't argue with that 2naSalit Oct 2013 #42
Agreed. CreekDog Oct 2013 #44
Ugh and no. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #45
Please ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #46
+1 Hekate Oct 2013 #55
Truth is ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #61
Quote of the Day!! N/T Guilded Lilly Oct 2013 #69
Finally. Now he simply needs to tell them what to do next, IMHO:) grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #47
"meth-addled barn swallows" 2banon Oct 2013 #48
Their has always been somthing a bit unsavory about BillyRibs Oct 2013 #49
3 words crack me up when I see them because they Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #50
But...but...but.. We ALL knew his secret identy! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #54
Gotta hand it to you. No one can coin a phrase as well as you. juajen Oct 2013 #56
Superbly said. K&R. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #57
I'll chime in too dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #58
Great job Mr. President!! tweeternik Oct 2013 #59
The Republicans tried Maxwell Smart's line and Obama called them on it DFW Oct 2013 #60
catastrophically Derpy LisaLynne Oct 2013 #62
I believe that's a significant oversimplification. Orsino Oct 2013 #64
right on frog64 Oct 2013 #65
Yep. Did good here. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #66
This is obvious MichaelKelley Oct 2013 #67
Fuck, yeah! Good one! ancianita Oct 2013 #68
It is unprecedented for a president's party to gain House seats in a 6th year election Bucky Oct 2013 #70
Agree, agree, but it is a god-damned shame 'effin' McConnell had to be paid a $2 billion indepat Oct 2013 #73
Backing down on Bombing Syria allowing Weapons Inspections to move forward KoKo Oct 2013 #74
The speech this morning was great EXCEPT, hearing between the lines, I strongly suspect JDPriestly Oct 2013 #76
K&R for "meth-addled barn swallows" alone. Brilliant! 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #77
Pride Fatbob Oct 2013 #78
Me too! K&R caseymoz Oct 2013 #79
K&R I'm also very proud of President Obama! DianaForRussFeingold Oct 2013 #80

mcar

(42,334 posts)
1. Well said
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:43 PM
Oct 2013

I presume the President's words were more, erm, circumspect, but I'm guessing you capture his meaning here.

Oh and "meth-addled barn swallows?" I am so stealing that. Is there a tip of the hat smilie?

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
63. Hahaha! I was planning on stealing the bit about
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:27 AM
Oct 2013

a "catastrophically Derpy understanding of history"!

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
3. The fight is not over, Will
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:46 PM
Oct 2013

Being "all over his ass tomorrow" will accomplish nothing.

we won this fight because Democrats were united and Republicans were divided.

we need to stay united.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
9. thanks scheming.. We need to Win Back the House. 2014!
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:58 PM
Oct 2013

And, thanks to the teabaggerKlan's 16 days of Screwing our Country and its People.. and Self immolation.. and President Obama's Righteous "Fuck yous" we may have a chance.

The fucking silver lining.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
4. check out how united we have been over this extortion attempt
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:49 PM
Oct 2013

CERTAIN FOLK NEED TO TAKE NOTICE; yes INDEED

pa28

(6,145 posts)
5. He finally stood by a hard line and good things followed.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:49 PM
Oct 2013

Tomorrow is another day but I'd say congratulations are in order.

Kennah

(14,273 posts)
52. Every goddam meth-addled barn swallow has his day.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:19 AM
Oct 2013

I thought I was gonna piss myself over that. Much thanks.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
7. The President is not the only one who has done very well.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:53 PM
Oct 2013
You are another.

Very well done, my dear WilliamPitt.

I concur, completely.



pscot

(21,024 posts)
8. I'm glad he held firm
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:56 PM
Oct 2013

but I can't help wondering what might have been if he'd shown some of this toughness 5 years ago.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
43. If he had shown some of this toughness ...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:19 PM
Oct 2013

5 years ago, he wouldn't have garnered anywhere near the support of the American public, as he has today.

It took 5 years, 6 down to the wire deals, a sequester and the current fiasco to swing the electorate to see that the modern gop has no interest in governing. And, even now, a full 35% of the electorate remains unconvinced.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. the teathugs have been chastened
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:25 PM
Oct 2013

not sent packing. All there will be in that snake pit called our leadership example, for the next two years, is obstruction, which the teapukes have honed to a fine art masking their hate of a black man leading the country who lives in the white house. I am sickened by the confederate flags waving in front of the WH. How dare they.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. My Offer is This: Nothing
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:29 PM
Oct 2013
My Offer is This: Nothing

Josh Marshall

Many Republicans knew this was going to be a disaster going in. But just as many totally misread Obama. Just days before the shutdown numerous high profile Republicans insisted there was no way Obama wouldn't negotiate. But probably the key driver of this drama has been President Obama's refusal to negotiate over raising the debt ceiling.

Yes, there's been some back and forth here at the end, but as begging like this suggests, it's mainly been to sort of out terms of surrender. But that refusal has defined the entire standoff.

That forced first Republicans and then House Republicans and finally the rump caucus of 50 to 80 House fire-breathers to stand alone with outrageous demands. By not engaging they destroyed themselves.

<...>

It's far different, in many ways goes to the right-wing fever-dream fantasy Obama. But this classic scene does capture some of it.



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/my-offer-is-this-nothing

Oh, and fuck the teabaggers!

Remember, kick 'em while they're down.


nolabear

(41,984 posts)
21. "Please proceed." It's the perfect way of dealing with the GOP. They'll do it all for you.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:41 PM
Oct 2013

Yep, WP, we did good to elect that man.

New Orleans Strong

(212 posts)
22. Kudos to you WilliamPitt
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:42 PM
Oct 2013

I have loved reading your posts for a long time. This one here is now one of my favorites. Keep fighting the good fight Sir -

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
25. I can't remember the exact quote...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:57 PM
Oct 2013

but it is something like "never get in the way of an enemy about to do a stupid thing"

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
26. Good on ya, Will
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:58 PM
Oct 2013

I don't always agree with you but you're spot on here.

And well done, Mr. President. More like this.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
32. Not to worry...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:26 PM
Oct 2013

"coke befuddled white-throated needle tails" is still available.

www.cokebefuddledwhitethroatedneedletails.com

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
31. The baggers condensed an entire year's worth of FAIL into a two week stretch
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:22 PM
Oct 2013

This amazing accomplishment could not have been possible without the hard work and dedication to the American people by President Obama.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
34. Bringing new meaning to the term "Like a boss.."!
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:42 PM
Oct 2013

I am thinking of the famous scene in Goodfellas where Henry Hill explains how a Mafia boss handles collections for his "protection"...

Fuck you. Pay me.




Time to collect Mr. President...time to collect!!!

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
36. Meth-addled barn swallows??
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:53 PM
Oct 2013

Very accurate description!!

(I must admit that reading it almost caused me to spit my beverage on my keyboard ...)

hue

(4,949 posts)
38. This f'd up gov. shutdown debacle did much to divide & expose the RW'ers for who they are/ aren't.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 09:57 PM
Oct 2013

And it did much to reveal President Obama's fortitude, character and leadership.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
40. It certainly was clear who were the adults in the room, wasn't it? Especially the President.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:14 PM
Oct 2013

Abundantly clear who was the cool, calm, and collected father figure. Patiently standing by while the infants and toddlers throw their hissy fits and their teething rings and tear at their bibs and wet their pants and run themselves straight down into the nursery room rug. And then he acts. Gently but firmly.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
46. Please ...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:31 PM
Oct 2013
Fuck that. I see the method of the man in this latest eruption more clearly than ever. To say he should be more like Lyndon Johnson, who was famous for his ability to work members of Congress, is to have a catastrophically Derpy understanding of history, in that you dare to compare the Congress members of Johnson's day to the goddam meth-addled barn swallows we endure now.


Please say that again!
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
61. Truth is ...
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:12 AM
Oct 2013

the modern gop is not the only ones that pine, romantically, for the good ole days that exists only in their minds and celebratory novels.

 

BillyRibs

(787 posts)
49. Their has always been somthing a bit unsavory about
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:02 AM
Oct 2013

Kicking folks while their down. They expect it, Never give the opponent anything. Treat this day as; "another day in the life." Being "subtle" is better in many ways. IOW You Know you have won the Intelligence contest, Your Opponent Knows it also. "If your goals are close make your Opponent believe they are far away. If your goals are far away make you opponent believe they are close.-Sun Tzu

It's me maybe as My Karma won't let me Kick anyone when they are down. Cause that shit always kicks me back. This kind of thing works best for me.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
50. 3 words crack me up when I see them because they
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:25 AM
Oct 2013

Remind me of the Midwest faux intellectualism I grew up with in Missouri.

Panacea, copasetic, and guesstimate.

Not a dig on what you wrote. It was just a trigger.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
58. I'll chime in too
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:47 AM
Oct 2013

K & R. Too rare that I praise Obama, so now that I'm feeling it I should say so. Well done. Good luck in the next battle, right around the corner.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
60. The Republicans tried Maxwell Smart's line and Obama called them on it
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:08 AM
Oct 2013

Would you believe I have an brigade of armed Teabaggers outside, ready to tear you limb from limb if you say no?

No, I wouldn't.

OK, would you believe I have Louie Gohmert, Ted Cruz and Rick Perry holding canisters of poison gas to throw if you hold firm?

No, I wouldn't believe that either.

Well, would you believe I have my tanning machine ready to give you skin cancer if you give me nothing at all?

I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker, I'm not buying any of it.

And why should he have? This is who he was up against:

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
64. I believe that's a significant oversimplification.
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:41 AM
Oct 2013

I can't believe that in all those hours of White House non-negotiation negotiations, that the president didn't float many offers (sorry, non-negotiated scenarios). In public, though, he framed the issue correctly, and did not waver. Now that two artificial crises are over (until next time), "fuck you" does seem a fair description of the deal (sorry, completely non-negotiated surrender).

Yes, he sure as fuck negotiated the hell out of things, and for that I am grateful. Very well done, Mr. President!

I wish to see more of this Chief Executive that I voted for. There are agendas that might be pursued beyond bomb disposal.

 

frog64

(40 posts)
65. right on
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:45 AM
Oct 2013

Spot on post. I have a neighbor who does not like Obama, who says that he should have intervened like LBJ would have done. I tell him that the country has changed, that Congress in no way resembles that of 1964. We have a bunch of ignorant tea baggers who have the GOP by the short hair, who are religious zealots whose view of the world is radically different from that of the mainstream. We are still in a hellava mess. It will take more cold, strong, disciplined tactics to keep the herd in check. I hope O takes off the table his offer to change the COLA for SS. He has offered it twice, but he can say, not again. Raise the damn cap on earnings.

MichaelKelley

(55 posts)
67. This is obvious
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:47 AM
Oct 2013

It is obvious for anyone that they want to see everything in their favor and if bad time comes in between definitely they will scold and same person will praise as well.

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
70. It is unprecedented for a president's party to gain House seats in a 6th year election
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:36 PM
Oct 2013

The Republicans seemed determined to destroy all sorts of precedents, traditions, and commonly held standards of responsible behavior. They're doing everything they can to help us take back the House. We should show them our gratitude.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
73. Agree, agree, but it is a god-damned shame 'effin' McConnell had to be paid a $2 billion
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:36 PM
Oct 2013

ransom and only God knows how many more sweeteners/ransoms are tucked away in the final bill and in side agreements.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
74. Backing down on Bombing Syria allowing Weapons Inspections to move forward
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:46 PM
Oct 2013

and holding firm during the Shut Down.

I'll give him those two. Those are positive signs that his second term may be more pro-active than the first. .

His Statement to the People this morning said that reforms to Social Security and Medicare are on the table and he repeated (as he often does) that there are "extremes in both parties." Coming off what we all just went through Ted Cruz and the Tea Party Terrorists I think he should have held back on comparing the Left in the Dem Party with the Right of the Repug Party. If he thinks that the House Progressive Caucus and Code Pink can compare with Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and the Heritage Foundation Action Committee then I think that is insulting. I hope he will rethink making those comparisons as he often does in his speeches since he was elected.

But...I'll give him praise for pulling back on Syria Bombing and Holding Firm during the Shut Down. 's

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
76. The speech this morning was great EXCEPT, hearing between the lines, I strongly suspect
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:30 PM
Oct 2013

that Obama and Boehner have agreed to negotiate their grand bargain so as to cut Social Security recipients down as far as they can on the excuse that they have to "save" Social Security and Medicare for future generations and so that our kids and grandkids will have a chance.

Nonsense.

If there is a crisis in Social Security and Medicare funding it is because the government has transmutated the extra money that we put into the Trust Fund into regular tax revenue. That's another way of saying that the government borrowed from our Trust Fund and doesn't want to pay it back.

If that happens, then Obama is giving in in fact and has agreed to steal from seniors to pay for Bush's war debts and tax cuts.

Our government owes seniors for the money we paid in during our working lives PLUS INTEREST which was incredibly high during the Reagan, Bush I and Clinton administrations when most of that money was accruing.

As a senior who relies on Social Security and Medicare to pay my daily bills, I am very pessimistic.

I don't think that the grand bargain will really result in restoring our government's full faith and credit. I just think that Obama and the Republicans will default on the weakest in our society -- seniors, especially those who are the most feeble and helpless.

Sorry to mess up people's days. But I have a lot of training in hearing and reading between the lines, and that is my analysis of his speech. Although other than that, great speech.

Fatbob

(2 posts)
78. Pride
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 06:17 PM
Oct 2013

I voted for Obama because he voted NO to the war in Iraq. It was hard to take a stand and not believe the gang's lies. Obama's ability to think for himself and not just go along with the crowd is ossum!

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
80. K&R I'm also very proud of President Obama!
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oct 2013
Thank you!

Lyrics:
Well I won't back down, no I won't back down
You could stand me up at the gates of hell
But I won't back down

Gonna stand my ground, won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from draggin' me down
Gonna stand my ground and I won't back down

Chorus:
Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
Hey I will stand my ground
And I won't back down

Well I know what's right, I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
But I'll stand my ground and I won't back down

Hey baby there ain't no easy way out
Hey I will stand my ground
And I won't back down
No, I won't back down
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