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So...is this the LAST shot they get at stopping the ACA? (Original Post) Ken Burch Oct 2013 OP
Have they stopped trying to gut Medicare? n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #1
theyll try as soon as they get a GOP President again scheming daemons Oct 2013 #2
actually they will try every chance they get... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #4
I don't think they'll try this shit again Cirque du So-What Oct 2013 #3
We MIGHT be clear of overthrow attempts until Dec 15, but not after that BlueStreak Oct 2013 #10
Cruz doesn't give a shit about the mid-terms. dballance Oct 2013 #13
They'll invent something new. Turbineguy Oct 2013 #5
I thought it was the last shot when they lost their 2nd vote to repeal Obamacare. Marie Marie Oct 2013 #6
No. Because it is nothing but subsidized predator insurance means it will be easy to kill anytime BlueStreak Oct 2013 #7
They'll keep trying continuously until a Republican president gets elected. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #8
And then we go to war with Iran, Syria, China, Russia Heather MC Oct 2013 #9
And New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Oregon, Washington.... Ken Burch Oct 2013 #16
Yeah They will really go after Canada once they figure out Heather MC Oct 2013 #17
A sane person would desist. However retread Oct 2013 #11
I think the new bill is only good until clydefrand Oct 2013 #12
The ACA was upheld as a tax by the USSC. All they need to repeal it is Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #14
If the ACA sign up clusterfuck ever ends, and people can actually sign up for insurance, it will be Zorra Oct 2013 #15
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
4. actually they will try every chance they get...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:39 PM
Oct 2013

however, popularity has prevented their schemes against other programs in the past...I think popularity is going to protect this too.

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)
3. I don't think they'll try this shit again
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:39 PM
Oct 2013

at least not next year, as it would keep the memories fresh until the elections.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
10. We MIGHT be clear of overthrow attempts until Dec 15, but not after that
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:55 PM
Oct 2013

Of course, it becomes very difficult to totally stop it after policies begin to go into force on January 1, but they will be right back at it, trying to undermine its success every way possible. I hope we don't have to hear any more of that shit before December 15, because we all need a break from it. But I just don't see that happening.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
13. Cruz doesn't give a shit about the mid-terms.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:57 PM
Oct 2013

Cruz is grandstanding for the presidential election and has a safe senate seat until 2018. It's quite obvious he doesn't give a shit about anyone other than him. He'll be happy to press his "principled stand" again next year.

Turbineguy

(37,331 posts)
5. They'll invent something new.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:40 PM
Oct 2013

They want to have a few more of these. Because surely if they keep this up, they'll get re-elected in a landslide.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
6. I thought it was the last shot when they lost their 2nd vote to repeal Obamacare.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:41 PM
Oct 2013

And then the 3rd...the 11th... the 14th... the 19th...the 24th... the 27th.. the 33rd... the 38th...the 42nd... They are persistent little buggers.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
7. No. Because it is nothing but subsidized predator insurance means it will be easy to kill anytime
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:51 PM
Oct 2013

The next time the GOP has control over over both houses, or has a GOP President, all they have to do is cut the subsidies, just like they did 2 weeks ago with food stamps. The structure that Obama chose is the most fragile of all institutions, and it only survives as long as we control the WH.

If instead, there would have been and expansion of Medicare, or at least the inclusion of a public option in the exchanges, this would be MUCH, MUCH harder to stop.

Honest folks, there is absolutely nothing protecting this thing, other than the goodwill of the people. If this doesn't have about 75% public support the next time we have a GOP President, it is history.

And why should 75% of the public be passionate about it? The exchange part of the program only serves about 10% pf the public.

One would hope that some of the other more general provisions, such as no pre-existing conditions, would be popular enough to survive a GOP President.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
16. And New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Oregon, Washington....
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:17 PM
Oct 2013

...and then they'll lose their place and start ANOTHER war with Canada.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
17. Yeah They will really go after Canada once they figure out
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:23 PM
Oct 2013

they had Universal Health Care first.

At least once a week I read some freepturd comment about moving to Canada

retread

(3,762 posts)
11. A sane person would desist. However
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:55 PM
Oct 2013

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein, (attributed)

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
12. I think the new bill is only good until
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:56 PM
Oct 2013

Jan 15 or Feb 7. Not sure which date will be the final one. And, NO, the repukes don't have enough sense to realize that every time they try this it just hurts their chances for reelection even more than already. They will keep it up until we have Democrats in the White House, the majority in the Senate and in the House of Representatives.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
14. The ACA was upheld as a tax by the USSC. All they need to repeal it is
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 06:59 PM
Oct 2013

a simple majority in both chambers and a willing president. Of course the same formula also works for defunding it. All tax and budgetary bills only require simple majorities.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
15. If the ACA sign up clusterfuck ever ends, and people can actually sign up for insurance, it will be
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 07:03 PM
Oct 2013

totally counterproductive to their interests for republicans to try to stop the ACA.

People would hate republicans even more than they hate them right now, and their would be even more on board with the hatin' on the thugs.

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