Little reason for celebration

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tweeted by, Chris Murphy ?@ChrisMurphyCT 17m

Little reason for celebration. Keeping doors open, paying bills is not a victory, it should be a basic expectation of gov.


Zachary A. Goldfarb ?@Goldfarb 1h
There's a reason White House isn't uber-excited about debt deal: It doesn't achieve anything but functioning of gov't.

RT @EvanMcSan: Carney: "I don't know how quickly everything gets turned on if an agreement is reached, passed and signed."

Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes 3m
Now we can all get back to ignoring the jobs crisis, spiking poverty rate, stagnating wages and creeping plutocracy. http://t.co/aQBVlFlHDi

[KurtNYC]

1. @ChrisMurphy -- When the GOP fights the Tea Party everybody wins!

#Lightenup

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2. hard to ignore the collateral and continuing effects

. . . of republican obstinacy.

[jeff47]

7. Those effects can be lessened when Republicans damage themselves this badly.

A strong Republican party makes those effects worse.

[bigtree]

8. well, here we are . . . actually a few steps back from where we started this fight

. . . before the sequester was agreed to.

Hard to be sanguine about where we are today. Us pawns out here are more than a bit rattled by the game. Check back at checkmate.

[jeff47]

15. And a strong Republican party would make those cuts worse

Weakening themselves gives Reid a much better negotiating position in the coming months, to reverse the worst of the sequester.

We won't be able to repeal the entire sequester unless we win the House in 2014. Again, Republicans damaging themselves makes that actually possible.

So while today continues to suck, recent events make it possible for tomorrow to be better.

[octoberlib]

3. I'm pleased with the outcome but in a

couple of months we'll be doing it all over again. As Ezra Klein wrote " American politics has become a game of Calvinball played with live ammunition."

Spectacular crises aren’t the only way a political system can fail. A Congress that can’t avoid own-goals like sequestration, that can't routinely legislate to address problems like aging infrastructure, and that misses opportunities like immigration reform will, over time, meaningfully harm the country’s growth prospects. And it will do so in a way that’s hard to notice, and thus hard to fix: People don’t much miss the three-tenths of a percentage point worth of growth they didn’t have that quarter. But compounded over time, it’s a disaster.
Crises can happen slowly, too. We can't say we weren't warned.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/wonkbook-its-time-to-downgrade-americas-political-system/

[Douglas Carpenter]

4. well it is a blow to the Tea Party and does bring them down a peg - but yeah

all we got is the government opening like they are supposed to without undoing a healthcare plan that most conservative Republicans not that long ago would have supported.

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5. not to mention

. . . we're back on the 'cave' watch of legislators (and others) willing to compromise our social safety net away for a budget deal.

[Avalux]

6. Exactly. This never should have happened, and we'll get a repeat in a couple of months. n/t

[bvar22]

9. This WAS a good Defensive Victory for the Democratic Party.

Democratic Party Solidarity forced the Republicans to PUNT,
but NOW it is time toScore some Points with an OFFENSE and WIN something!
Strike FAST!
It would be a shame to waste this opportunity.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023863594

[seveneyes]

10. When we have jobs for everyone that is able to work

That will be cause for celebration. Until then, we just need to limit the damage.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. For some people, there never is

The sad factions of this board are making themselves ridiculous today, that's for sure.

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12. you have to have a pretty insulated and secure life

. . . to ridicule folks still concerned about their economic future with this group of politicians still in control.

[Dawgs]

14. Thank you. n/t

[RobertEarl]

16. Thank you, Dawgs

You are my kind of Democrat. Can you believe the opposition we are getting?

Even here we have moderates telling us we should be happy we still have our heads and otherwise should STFU.

Well, I have tried nice. Hasn't worked. Time to adjust, eh? Obama? Is he with us?

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. Blah blah blah

You forgot the part where I was drowning kittens.

Pout away.

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18. nice

what the hell do you imagine you're doing?

Who/what is it you're defending again? Is this your version of progressive politics? Democratic politics? Presidential politics? DU politics?

It just looks like assholery from here.

Just what the fuck do you imagine you're doing?

[Dawgs]

13. Exactly what I've been saying. We not only got knocked back with the shutdown, but..

there are no elections this year. Yes the GOP disapprovals are high now, but 54+ weeks is a long time. A lot can happen.

[warrprayer]

19. !!!!

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20. that just makes you look like a schmuck

. . . and the President's a much better man than you've represented him as here. certainly not schmucky like this post of yours.

[warrprayer]

21. I am laughing at the op

... not with it.