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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:30 PM Oct 2013

The one good thing that has come out of this

is now we know for sure who our overlords are, the Heritage Foundation, headed by Jim DeMint and funded by the Koch brothers and other MIC supporters. They were responsible through their spin off, the Project for a New American Century, of bringing us the Iraq war. We here at DU have always known this but now it's making it through the main media that Heritage Action stopped the Boner in his tracks from ending this manufactured by them crisis.

They are running our government, not our elected leaders. If there was ever a call to arms for people action, this is it.



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vi5

(13,305 posts)
1. The other good thing
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:33 PM
Oct 2013

Is now we know that when Dems stand strong, we win. So now there are no excuses for buckling or caving or bending to the will of the GOP.

From here on out when and if that happens we'll know it's because they don't WANT to win, not because the CAN'T win.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. I agree that what they do is unAmerican and seditious.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:40 PM
Oct 2013

Most of America is not ready to see this yet.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. Recommend...and we need to find some way to get them out of
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:52 PM
Oct 2013

running our Government. Law Suit...something.

There was an article somewhere about trying the two brothers for Treason or maybe Sedition. (I'll have to try to find it.) But, anyway it seems they have "conspired" through funding radical groups to try to break the Constitution and bring down our Government. They are harming "The People." They are homegrown terrorists, imho. How else can one explain paying a Senator (Ted Cruz) to do this?


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Here's the article. It's from a poster on a Politics, USA....so I don't know if the poster has their facts correctly on how this could be done but here's the link for speculation:



The Koch Brothers Seditious Shutdown Conspiracy Should Get Them 20 Years in Prison
By: Rmuse
Saturday, October 12th, 2013, 4:37 pm

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/12/koch-brothers-seditious-shutdown-conspiracy-20-years-prison.html

The U.S. Code says “if two or more persons” are involved in a conspiracy to oppose the authority of, prevent, hinder, or delay any law they shall be punished and that means that every single Republican, teabagger, conservative media, and libertarian belief tank is in line to be prosecuted for seditious conspiracy by the Department of Justice. Every Republican in the House that voted to tie defunding the Affordable Care Act is part of the conspiracy, and that also applies to Republicans who voted in lockstep to prevent the law’s implementation by tying defunding the law to passing a continuing resolution to open the government.

Republicans in leadership positions in the House and Senate are particularly culpable for preventing the law’s enactment and not because they wasted taxpayer time and money voting over forty times to repeal the law, but because their propaganda, lies, and misinformation incited hostility in the states to oppose the authority of the law. In states such as Arizona, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, Wyoming, and Missouri Republicans refused to enforce the law, and after the general election at least three Republican states voted to arrest any federal official who tried to implement the law making them part of the seditious conspiracy as much as the Koch brothers who paid hundreds-of-millions to hinder the law’s implementation. One former Republican, Joe Walsh (R-IL) actually went so far as to provoke his supporters to “defy and or break the law” if faced with what he called “restrictions” in the federal health law. Three GOP-controlled states openly voted to “nullify” the law in typical Confederate fashion.



Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. I just started going through The Heritage Foundation website.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:35 PM
Oct 2013

What a gallery of rogues for starters and top of the list, the late Baroness Margaret Thatcher? Also it has non-profit status. What philanthropy or charities do they do? Supporting politicians and political causes doesn't seem to make the cut to me. Shouldn't the IRS audit and investigate them? I think this is where we need to start, discrediting this think tank. Their financials should give any good AG cause to convene a grand jury to investigate them, IMHO, although I'm just starting to plow through them.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. A couple years ago one of our Dem Financial writers said that the way
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 05:02 PM
Oct 2013

to get them was through the IRS. She wrote a lot about how they could do it and how it could be a "work around" to the Citizens United decision. But, it didn't seem to get picked up anywhere. Then wasn't it last year that the Repugs carried on about the IRS going after TeaPary and they managed to get them to back off. I think someone was fired, or volunteered to step down and the Funding was cut again. This shutdown didn't help, either....because now the IRS is backed up and overwhelmed because they had folks furloughed. We still have the Sequester and I suspect that continuing it will be part of the battles in January. Whatever "bicameral commission" they have working on budget cuts to report middle of December will probably end up with something like Simpson-Bowles II.



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