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by Jed Lewison
What if I told you that one of the leaders of the tea party strategy to stop Obamacare by shutting down the Federal government didn't actually believe it was possible to repeal Obamacare until 2017 at the earliest but pushed forward with his plan anyway?
You'd probably get pretty mad, right? Shutting down the government over an unrelated policy dispute is bad enough, but if the people shutting the government down didn't even believe that their strategy would work, then they'd be guilty of inflicting pain and creating chaos for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
It might be hard to believe that anyone would admit to such a thing, but Wednesday morning on Fox News, that's exactly what Heritage Action CEO Michael Needham did. He started out by explaining that Republicans had shut down the government because they don't want to "allow" Obamacare to "go forward" because they believe it must be stopped "before January 1":
The reason the government is shut down is Obamacare is unfair, it's unaffordable, it's unworkable, every single day there's more evidence of that coming out. House Republicans have remained strong in saying we are not going to let this bill go forward. We're not going to allow this to be inflicted on the American people. <...>
I think that almost every member of the House Republican conference, if not all of them, is deeply concerned about Obamacare, and knows that we have to do something before January 1 to stop it.
Then, less than sixty seconds later, he admitted that this strategy was doomed:
Well, everybody knows that we're not going to be able to repeal this law until 2017, and that we have to win the Senate and win the White House.
Well, as infuriating as the GOP nihilistic strategy has been, one thing is for sure: It's now a whole lot less likely that come 2017, they'll still be in control of the Houselet alone the Senate or presidency.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1247832/-Tea-party-ringleader-admits-the-GOP-shut-down-the-government-for-nothing
It's not a "bill," moron. It's the law.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023760563
GOP Prepares For Surrender On Debt Ceiling And Shutdown
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023861403
Stupid fucks!
FSogol
(45,488 posts)maryellen99
(3,789 posts)You probably have wrecked the economy anyway
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)It is a LAW affirmed by 2 presidential elections and a Supreme Court decision.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)lastlib
(23,242 posts)(let's not forget those!)
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)You think anyone is confusing the political hit the Republicans took with everything is alright in the world?
Such Democratic unity is rare and worth relishing a bit.
Keep reminding people that the teabaggers are delusional and dangerous.
Also, I'm for beating them while they're down.
Mikeystyle
(208 posts)we can sell rattles and pacifiers to the tea party crybabies who want to shut down the government because they didn't get their way
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Let's give credit where credit is due, they have stalled the economy.
They are up to something, the plan is not overt, and it is working.
gademocrat7
(10,659 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)Chief Executive Officer
Heritage Action for America
Nonprofit; 11-50 employees; Political Organization industry
April 2010 Present
Heritage Action for America is a grassroots advocacy organization dedicated to promoting conservative values, policy priorities, and ideas.
Special Assistant
Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee
Privately Held; 51-200 employees; Political Organization industry
2007 2008 (1 year)
Chief of Staff and Director
The Heritage Foundation
Nonprofit; 201-500 employees; Think Tanks industry
2004 2007 (3 years)
Michael A. Needham's Education
Stanford University Graduate School of Business
MBA
2008 2010
Williams College
BA, Political Science & Economics
2000 2004
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-a-needham/18/25a/2a7
As the conservatives used to say, he has never had a real job. 100% of his time in a "think" tank or "political organization industry" when not in college. If Heritage hadn't hired him straight out of college (for "Chief of Staff and Director"? at age 22?) the Bushies would have had him in Iraq trying to run the Iraqi economy, like they did with other "sent a resume to Heritage" youngsters.
Speaking of Iraq, please note when he got out of college. Military service is conspicuously absent from his resume during a time of war.
Remember the 2007 video about the College Republican convention, how they all supported the war and the military...as long as it was someone else? Mike was a little older, but the exact same type.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Especially when its time to VOTE!
dawnie51
(959 posts)these clips and interviews are being formed into commercials as we speak. There is ample quantity of these guys admitting to their maleficence out there. They have been proud of it and wanted to talk about it. Now is the time to use their own idiocy against them.
BumRushDaShow
(129,068 posts)Exactly.
lastlib
(23,242 posts)drawn and quartered and hung from a lamp-post in the town square!
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Kablooie
(18,634 posts)to sink yourselves even lower in the public estimation.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Individual mandate that is.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/the-heritage-foundation-disowns-its-baby
Butler wrote a 1989 pamphlet titled A National Health System For America in collaboration with Edmund Haislmaier (then a health care policy analyst at Heritage and now a senior research fellow thereno, they didnt fire him, either). The pamphlet is not currently available on Heritages Web site (it can be purchased online), but a 1989 lecture by Butler (Assuring Affordable Healthcare For All Americans) is, and a more readable version is available on the Web site HealthCareReform.ProCon.org.
In the lecture, Butler said:
"Many states now require passengers in automobiles to wear seatbelts for their own protection. Many others require anybody driving a car to have liability insurance. But neither the federal government nor any state requires all households to protect themselves from the potentially catastrophic costs of a serious accident or illness. Under the Heritage plan, there would be such a requirement."
They are astoundingly stupid because of their blind hatred towards the black guy in the white house. They could have jumped in ahead and framed it as "It was all our idea, we don't want Single Payer because that would be communism, but the individual mandate is a GREAT idea because it sustains the private insurance industry. Its nice to see the President follow our lead.. blah blah blah..."
But no, I guess they rely on their Con supporters to engage their selective memory super powers, and based on past history, they're probably not going to be hurt much by it.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Hate 'em.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)and thought it said "Tea Party Ringmaster".