All Signs Suggest The Debt Ceiling Madness Will Happen Again Even If A Deal Is Reached

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http://www.businessinsider.com/all-signs-suggest-that-the-debt-ceiling-crisis-will-happen-again-2013-10



WASHINGTON (AP) — Hold the champagne.

Even if Congress reaches a last-minute or deadline-busting deal to avert a federal default and fully reopen the government, elected officials are likely to return to their grinding brand of brinkmanship — perhaps repeatedly.

House-Senate talks are barely touching the underlying causes of debt-and-spending stalemates that pushed the country close to economic crises in 2011, last December and again this month.

Late Tuesday, the GOP-controlled House dropped efforts to craft a bill to raise the debt limit and fully open the government. House members will wait for the Democratic-controlled Senate to act, which could push a final resolution past Thursday. That's when administration officials say federal borrowing powers will be tapped out.



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[DippyDem]

1. Yay! Do it again please!

We need to remind the voters who those teabillies are. Never forget!

[madokie]

7. Thats what I say too

keep it up until the elections.

[cali]

2. right. and how much has the political and social fabric of this country

already been frayed by the shenanigans of these fucks? How much more can it sustain?

[dawnie51]

3. There is nothing that will compensate me...

for the torture and misery I have undergone since late Sept. As a retired Fed employee, who receives SS, my husband is the same, my son-in-law works for a federal contractor, believe me, this family and our friends and our acquaintances are well aware and WILL NEVER forget this little exercise in terrorism. EVER. I will despise these putrid pieces of shit forever and intend to work as hard as I can to see Republicans never arise again.

[Laelth]

5. That's the spirit.

And welcome to DU.



-Laelth

[Laelth]

4. R's would be better served by extending the debt ceiling until Dec. 2014.

If they don't, they're just setting themselves up for another public thrashing. That said, they may be dumb enough to advance a short-term fix that Obama should sign and probably will.



-Laelth

[geek tragedy]

6. I dunno. The Democrats inflicted a painful lesson

on the Pugs. Can't imagine the bad guys would have much appetite for this.

[dawnie51]

8. I am torn...

I do not want to go through this again in a matter of weeks; I have been unable to sleep, my nerves have been blown. But if that's what it takes to keep people's minds on the issues at hand, maybe it's not all bad. I just medicate my way to sleep at night. That's a small price to pay for having Republican incompetence front and center prior to 2014 elections. Thank God for DU. You have kept me sane through this debacle.

[B Calm]

9. Surely republicans have learned a lesson. .

but, they are dumb assholes!

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. When you run from a fight yelping with your tail between your legs

It's not exactly a "sign" that you're ready to come back for more.

In fact, very few signs point to a repeat. If the moderate Republicans sense any erosion at all of the Teahadi position in their districts, they will no longer fear primary, and they will tell the Baggers to beat sand.

It was, of course, clear that any hint the Dems had won a victory would immediately be squelched by people who seem to despise winning. I'd advise others not to wallow with the sadder factions on this board. Most of their stuff is just nonsense anyway.

[lonestarnot]

11. This is the new norm in governing until we stomp them out.

[NuclearDem]

12. Well, hopefully when this happens again the Democrats will finally put the screws to--

Oh God, I couldn't even finish the sentence.

[xchrom]

13. !

[winter is coming]

14. If the GOP thinks they've gained anything from this maneuver, you can count on it. n/t

[Swede Atlanta]

15. You are absolutely correct......

The ONLY way the cycles of crisis will stop is when the adults in the room send the children to time out.

The President AND Harry Reid need to stop any concept of negotiation, PERIOD.

(1) Open the government with a clean CR without conditions
(2) Increase the debt limit without conditions

Once that is done then there can be discussions on budgetary and other policy matters (e.g. changes to the ACA). But as we have seen when Senate Democrats tried to go to Conference with the House earlier this year to hammer out a new budget, Republicans blocked this time and time again.

The Democrats want to scrap the sequester because it is the wrong way to make budgetary decisions. I think the Republics don't want to go to any serious negotiations because they know this is true and they fear they may walk away with less, not more, of their draconian, trickle-down economic policies.

[MisterP]

16. the whole point of Beltway politics since 1981/94 has been to keep the ratchet moving rightward$