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Is anyone still stuck in the Obama Caves? (Original Post) jberryhill Oct 2013 OP
Most of the cavemen have left the cave and went to the Kabuki Theater. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #1
Thank you, Admiral Akbar jberryhill Oct 2013 #6
lol Hutzpa Oct 2013 #2
If Obama can bring this to completion, that fundamentally changes the outlook for his last 3 years BlueStreak Oct 2013 #3
+++ ^^^ nt hopemountain Oct 2013 #4
I don't believe in "jinxes" jberryhill Oct 2013 #5
The doomsayers and naysayers have had their asses handed to them recently... Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #7
You forgot...last week he caught al Liby! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #8
His predisposition to cave during negotiations was not imaginary BlueStreak Oct 2013 #10
Perhaps he was like Ali VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #11
He was caving BEFORE the teabaggers ascended. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #17
Lol. Show me an unhappy liberal and I'll show you Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #19
Actually I think the "cavers" are getting THEIR asses kicked... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #20
I'm sure some are still DevonRex Oct 2013 #9
Yes Spelunkers are still around.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #12
Yes. As are we all until the end of the week. Orsino Oct 2013 #13
Plugh (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #14
No cave but no victory. former9thward Oct 2013 #15
Here. I think you need this. DevonRex Oct 2013 #16
Thanks but I already have a couple. former9thward Oct 2013 #18
 
1. Most of the cavemen have left the cave and went to the Kabuki Theater.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:17 AM
Oct 2013

Promoting the idea that the GOP deliberately sabotaged itself so that Democrats could save face when they enact massive austerity.



Someone send those assholes in Congress their SAG cards right away.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
3. If Obama can bring this to completion, that fundamentally changes the outlook for his last 3 years
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:20 AM
Oct 2013

I don't think this is a time to gloat. It ain't over until it is over. Moreover, all we achieved was to survive a hostage crisis, and for all we know, the terrorists are still on the loose, ready to strike again in a few weeks.

But this was a stand Obama and the Dems had to take. I'm proud to be on their side today. Now there is at least some hope that we can move away from kamikaze tactics and do some governing that will actually help Americans, and help America be a better nation in the 21st Century.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. I don't believe in "jinxes"
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:38 AM
Oct 2013

Look, if the doomsayers and naysayers can have their say, then I'm entitled to a little sooth now and then.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
7. The doomsayers and naysayers have had their asses handed to them recently...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:54 AM
Oct 2013

from the shutdown to the Yellen appointment to Syria, Iran and now the debt ceiling.

They've been thoroughly deflated and defeated....

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
10. His predisposition to cave during negotiations was not imaginary
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:01 AM
Oct 2013

That is why this case is so remarkable. The GOP never believed he could do it.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
11. Perhaps he was like Ali
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:35 AM
Oct 2013

in order to take out the Teaparty...

As I always say....underestimate him at your peril...

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
17. He was caving BEFORE the teabaggers ascended.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:24 PM
Oct 2013

I think the most charitable thing to say is that after 5 years of getting his ass kicked by a bunch of intransigent morons, he finally learned his lesson. I am glad for that, but can only wax poetic about how we would be better off it he had more of a quick learner.

Now the challenge is to make sure he doesn't revert to his old ways during the next 3 years.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
19. Lol. Show me an unhappy liberal and I'll show you
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:37 PM
Oct 2013

A liberal. There is a time for everything. A little exultation is appropriate right now.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
20. Actually I think the "cavers" are getting THEIR asses kicked...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

by those that are patient and know change is hard!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. Yes. As are we all until the end of the week.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:56 AM
Oct 2013

While I'd like to believe in total GOP capitulation, or that the position they've staked out polls too crappily to be tenable, history teaches us that terrible concessions must always be made to them.

Some face-saving token wouldn't upset me, and if a clean deal is forthcoming I hope to be among the first to applaud the first time the president didn't have to cave.

If Cruz can be muzzled for a day or two, we might just come out of this with an economy.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
15. No cave but no victory.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:46 PM
Oct 2013

Unless you call a sequester which puts spending at less than Paul Ryan's budget a victory.

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