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DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:11 PM Oct 2013

A bit of Yeats for the House GOPers:

William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
THE SECOND COMING

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

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A bit of Yeats for the House GOPers: (Original Post) DemoTex Oct 2013 OP
You expect a GOPer to understand this? pangaia Oct 2013 #1
Actually, no. DemoTex Oct 2013 #3
As a member of the choir, pangaia Oct 2013 #6
Really. Words from a time when words had meaning. (nt) enough Oct 2013 #4
I think this is very appropriate and beautiful, my dear DemoTex... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #2
Thanks, Peg. DemoTex Oct 2013 #5
Ted Cruz? Avalux Oct 2013 #7
OK, that made me laugh. Volaris Oct 2013 #15
Yeah, I thought of that one myself this morning. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #8
Indeed DemoTex Oct 2013 #9
To a Friend whose Work has come to Nothing mahina Oct 2013 #10
For the first time, I understand the falcon line: philly_bob Oct 2013 #11
That's always been a gorgeous poem, and a terrifying one Hekate Oct 2013 #12
And, then there was Wilfred Owen .. 1917 DemoTex Oct 2013 #13
I've always thought that this line from Wilfred Owen was so true and so tragic. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #14
Remember when Laura Bush was to have a gathering of poets at the WH? Hekate Oct 2013 #16
Thanks. I've quoted this before: freshwest Oct 2013 #17
Life is a trapdoor function, you can only start over, you can't go back. bemildred Oct 2013 #18

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
2. I think this is very appropriate and beautiful, my dear DemoTex...
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:17 PM
Oct 2013

Thank you!

A moment of beauty and sanity in the midst of all of this...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
8. Yeah, I thought of that one myself this morning.
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:28 PM
Oct 2013
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


Kinda says it all.

DemoTex

(25,397 posts)
9. Indeed
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:37 PM
Oct 2013

I'd distill it further to the last two lines:
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."

But, perhaps, Ecclesiastes says it best: "There is nothing new under the sun."

mahina

(17,663 posts)
10. To a Friend whose Work has come to Nothing
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 10:05 PM
Oct 2013

To a Friend whose Work has come to Nothing


NOW all the truth is out,
Be secret and take defeat
From any brazen throat,
For how can you compete,
Being honour bred, with one
Who, were it proved he lies,
Were neither shamed in his own
Nor in his neighbours’ eyes?
Bred to a harder thing
Than Triumph, turn away
And like a laughing string
Whereon mad fingers play
Amid a place of stone,
Be secret and exult,
Because of all things known
That is most difficult.

No, wait, that was for us when Bush stole the Presidency, for the second time.



philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
11. For the first time, I understand the falcon line:
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 10:06 PM
Oct 2013

"The falcon cannot hear the falconer"

The teabaggers do not respond to their corporate bosses.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
12. That's always been a gorgeous poem, and a terrifying one
Tue Oct 15, 2013, 10:43 PM
Oct 2013

Written in 1919 after the War to End All Wars wrought so much destruction that a poet could discern the madness still ahead in the 20th century...

And here we are.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
14. I've always thought that this line from Wilfred Owen was so true and so tragic.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:03 AM
Oct 2013

And yet the young people march off to war, god knows why.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
16. Remember when Laura Bush was to have a gathering of poets at the WH?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:21 AM
Oct 2013

When she found out that some planned to bring poems about war, she wanted to cancel (I don't remember if she ultimately did) because, she said, people do not write poems about war, so she was not going to have any of that at her luncheon.

What a blind and ignorant woman. I thought of Wilfred Owen, but also that poets have been writing about war and its devastation and sorrow since before the Greeks laid down the dactylic hexameter.

Thanks for bringing in Yeats, btw; he's one of my favorites.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Thanks. I've quoted this before:
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:58 AM
Oct 2013
If man were immortal he could be perfectly sure of seeing the day when every thing in which he had trusted should betray his trust, and, in short, of coming eventually to hopeless misery.

He would break down, at last, as every good fortune, as every dynasty, as every civilization does. In place of this we have death.


~ Charles Sanders Pierce

A comment where I found it read somewhat like this:

Death can be seen as a blessing. One can still hold onto one's ideals and beliefs and not become embittered by the way life treats that which one held so dear.

Of course we can take one path or another. Either road will be equally difficult.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
18. Life is a trapdoor function, you can only start over, you can't go back.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 05:53 AM
Oct 2013

We are finite beings in a finite world, and there are good reasons for that.

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