Dumb question: what was the Hasert Rule?

[gopiscrap]

[VanillaRhapsody]

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hastert_Rule

[gopiscrap]

2. thanks

[pkdu]

3. Don't be afraid of Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hastert_Rule

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. That you can bring a bill with only the majority of the majority

Denny Hastert has said it wasn't even a rule.

Here

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/03/denny-hastert-disses-the-hastert-rule-it-never-really-existed.html

[gopiscrap]

6. thanks I forgot about wikepedia

looked it up

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. I did not send you to wiki

[gopiscrap]

9. no but some one else did and I looked at your source and also the wikepedia

I was curious about it because they've been talking about it on MSNBC today

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. No problem

[Motown_Johnny]

5. A majority of the majority instead of just a majority of the House.

And "was" is not the correct tense. It still exists.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

12. Not a rule at all

The Hastert "rule" (denied existence by Denny Hastert, the Speaker for whom it is named) is something made up by Republican Speakers to justify not bringing rules to the floor which they don't like but know would pass anyway. It exists only in the minds of those who elect to follow it.

[Motown_Johnny]

14. don't be so literal

Is the Golden Rule a rule?

What I offered is the correct answer to the question that was asked.

When someone asks about the enforcement mechanism employed by the Hasert rule, you feel free to repost your response.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

15. I'll take it from the horse's mouth...

In the business of government, no matter how large or small, definitions matter.

Here is what the longest serving Republican Speaker of the House had to say about that:

"That was a misnomer at a press conference. One time they asked me about immigration legislation, why don't I just use Democrat votes? I said, well I'm never going to not have a majority of my own party go along with me. If you do that, then you're not using your own policy. And [the press] blew that up as the Hastert Rule. The Hastert Rule, really, was: If you don't have 218 votes, you didn't bring the bill to the floor," he explained.

Asked by a surprised reporter to confirm that he, Dennis Hastert, thinks there is no rule named after him, the former speaker replied: "There is no Hastert Rule, no."

So, not only was there never a "Hastert Rule" in the mind of wrestling coach Denny Hastert, John Boner didn't follow Denny's rule, since all reliable media sources have been indicating for two weeks that there were (and are) 218 votes for a clean bill.

As for "The Golden Rule" It may be appropriate in Sunday Schools, but I would make the same clarification if someone attempted to make it a procedure for passing laws in a government.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/dennis-hastert-there-is-no-hastert-rule-20131003

[Motown_Johnny]

16. first of all, he is a horse's ass

and it does not matter if it is a misnomer.

Polarized light isn't really polarized either. It too is a misnomer. That does not mean that this thing does not exist.

The practice exists, even if it is attributed to the wrong person and is wrongly referred to as a rule.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

17. Correct, thank you. Words do have meaning.

We agree. The PRACTICE exists. The RULE does not. And it DOES matter that sloppy press reporting created this misnomer in the minds of many citizens.

Several of the low-information voters I've spoken with ask how the House could have such a stupid "rule" and has have people posting here, kept assuming it actually was a House Rule.

It has been gratifying during this crisis to see even some conservative reporting finally begin to refer to this "practice" as "the so-called 'Hastert Rule'.

Regardless of my personal opinion of Denny Hastert, he is the one who debunked this particular misnomer.

[Roselma]

7. Hastert claimed that he never had that

"rule". He mused about the way he'd have liked to have run the place with a consistent majority of the majority.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Correct. The "rule" is only Boehner's excuse for his weakness. nt

[Lifelong Dem]

13. Let me Google that for you

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=+What+was+the+Hastert+Rule%3F

I heard Steve King on CNN Crossfire say Boehner can use the Hastert Rule.