Brace yourself: If history is an indicator, we--errr---DU--- will not like this deal.

[trumad]

Really not much more to say.

[ChangeUp106]

1. Me refreshing DU and watching the news today

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[kydo]

2. LOL

[Jamastiene]

5. ROFL!

Good one!

[leftstreet]

19. LOL

[JimDandy]

20. Hey you've got my couch!

At least the one I had in 1991. Long gone now. I want the kitty though!

[treestar]

22. That's about it

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. LOL

[ScreamingMeemie]

3. I had my mind prepared last week for a "deal."

[geek tragedy]

4. Yup, victory for Democrats amounts to paying a modest ransom to the hostage takers. nt

[csziggy]

25. Today's Democrats need to read "The Ransom of Red Chief" for tips

On how to treat hostage takers aka kidnappers. When the kidnappers pay to be relieved of the hostage, THEN they will never do it again!

For the story: http://www.online-literature.com/donne/1041/

For a synopsis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ransom_of_Red_Chief

[progressoid]

6. Well,

there might be a couple of people here that will try valiantly to polish the turd.

[kath]

21. gee, ya think??

And it's not hard to predict who they will be.

[BluegrassStateBlues]

7. I want my money to be worth something next week when I purchase the new iPad.

Hope we don't default.

[Pab Sungenis]

8. Reid caved.

Agreeing to delay parts of Obamacare for a year.

Can we kick him out of the party now?

[melody]

9. They haven't released any details on the agreement ... unless you have an in? n/t

[Shivering Jemmy]

10. Delay what parts?

Medical device tax? Don't care. If the mandate then do care.

[Pab Sungenis]

13. Device tax at least.

But giving in to ANY of their demands just leads to more hostage taking.

[Cali_Democrat]

11. Bullshit. n/t

[BluegrassStateBlues]

15. The delay or repeal of the medical device tax is something even Sen. Warren wanted

and something President Obama doesn't give two flying fucks about.

It's hardly a cave or capitulation.

And it's certainly not worth defaulting the country over.

[lostincalifornia]

17. No way. The ACA is off the table.

[grantcart]

24. link please.

[jeff47]

26. Link? Or are you referring to the Politico article?

If you read that article a little more carefully, you'll realize it's rather poorly written.

The deal:
1. "Clean" CR.
2. Debt ceiling increase that will last about a year
3. Start budget negotiations.

Then the article starts talking about what might happen during #3. But none of those are actually part of the deal. They're in the article to make it look like the Republicans got something. If they accept Reid's deal, they get nothing other than pretending it's different than what Reid and Obama have been demanding since this started.

[bunnies]

12. I refuse to suffer future pain.

I'd rather wait and see.

[DJ13]

14. Assume the position

[Benton D Struckcheon]

16. On the table is the timing of different things,

haven't seen anything about stuff like chained CPI or any other entitlement cuts of any sort being discussed, but there's always the chance of a surprise, I suppose. A medical device tax repeal would be no biggie to anyone. The rest of Obamacare isn't on the table, far as I can tell.

[TDale313]

18. Just emailed my Senators and Congresswoman

To thank them for standing strong so far, implore them not to agree to any grand bargain- before or after the hostages are released- that cuts benefits to SS, Medicare, or Medicaid or delays/ defends the ACA. Although I already got an automated message back from DiFi's office saying that due to the shutdown her office can't respond to my message right now, but they will when they are able. (If past is prologue, I expect a message from her explaining why they're actually saving them with austerity and it's a good thing, really)

[treestar]

23. True. Some will not like any "deal" of any type

Though we don't have to like it if is averts default. We need a damn Congress that will pass something to avoid these types of cliffs. Now that we know Republicans will use them for leverage.

[el_bryanto]

27. There's no chance we'll like it; and that's OK

It's not OK; it sucks. But we share the country with a bunch of selfish assholes; and until we convince them not to be selfish assholes (easier said than done), any deal with them is going to involve half measures and out and out crap.

That sucks; but if the alternative is to crash into the debt ceiling and keep Government closed . . . well a crappy deal is probably better than that.

Bryant

[Buddaman]

29. Thugs really got their nuts in a vice....

Get the wrench and tighten it up.....