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When you tell these gun nuts that Obama is going to start quartering troops in your home it is getting dangerous. Things are nuts enough without such talk.
brucefan
(1,549 posts)Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)That Obama was stripping them of Constitutional protection, and suggested quartering troops was next.
You look at our Constitution, you look at our Bill of Rights, this is an administration that seems bound and determined to violate every single one of our Bill or Rights, he explained.
Tyranny! a man in the audience shouted.
I dont know that theyve yet violated the Third Amendment, but I expect them to start quartering soldiers in peoples homes soon, the Texas Republican said.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/11/ted-cruz-obama-will-start-quartering-soldiers-in-peoples-homes-soon/
I watched the speech live. It was painfully uninformed, but so was the crowd who broke into "U.S.A." chants...
raging moderate
(4,309 posts)You're right; it is dangerous!
kairos12
(12,873 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)From senate.gov:
Censure: A less severe form of discipline used by the Senate against its members is censure (sometimes referred to as condemnation or denouncement). A censure does not remove a senator from office. It is a formal statement of disapproval, however, that can have a powerful psychological effect on a member and his/her relationships in the Senate. Since 1789 the Senate has censured nine of its members.
Buddha_of_Wisdom
(373 posts)Cruz serves no purpose and does not represent Texas. Only himself and the Tea Party assholes.
calimary
(81,507 posts)Glad you're here! Expulsion! MAN that would be great, and much deserved for that arrogant Sultan of Shitstorm! And yet I still keep hearing stories reported from Texas that it remains rather blood-red there, and most people there LOVE the loons they've sent to Washington, particularly him. I keep hoping for the day when he truly gets his comeuppance. This guy really needs to be brought back down to earth, and off his high horse. The last legitimate Messiah Complex is about 2,000 years in the past, after all!
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Elsewhere on the website, it gives the history of censure and expulsions from the Senate. In nearly every case (notable exception being McCarthy, who was essentially censured for "being an asshole" there was a legitimate underlying crime -- usually involving bribery or other financial malfeasance.
Fortunately for official Washington, "being an asshole" isn't a crime.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)seem to be the only voices of sanity in a sea of crazy talk, lots and lots of people calling for members of congress to be arrested and charged with sedition or treason and shipped off to Gitmo.
I want to thank you for knowing the law and attempting to explain why this is nothing more than wishful thinking.
I know it's gotta be tough to educate people here about the sedition and treason laws amid all the turmoil and emotion of this current crises, but, please, continue to be that voice of sanity.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)That sort of talk is funny on Facebook memes, but it doesn't need to part of a serious discussion.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)I bet even Cornyn would have a hard time voting not to censure. It would also give Castro a weight to throw on Cruz's back when he comes up for re-election in 2018.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...this is THE dumbest! That law was created in response to the British forcing landowners to allow their Redcoat troops to commandeer their homes for shelter.
Is he mentally ill? Um, wait, I think I know the answer.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)you have to keep amping the crazy.
Cha
(297,693 posts)GD Supercillious Smirk off of his MoFo pipe hole.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)and bring back Kay Balie Hutcheson?
Never liked her, but all of a sudden I love her.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)But you're right, we'd take Kay Bailey in a heartbeat over this bozo. Heck I wish she would have had the nerve to run as an independent in the governor's race last time around after Perry beat her in the R primaries, she could have won a general election (I was almost hoping she might try something of the sort in 2014, that is until Wendy came around)
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I just had an odd conversation with somone earlier where they were talking about people being forced to quarter troops in their homes, and I said that was a pre-revolution thing and thought it was out of the blue and bizarre. But now I know where he got that from.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)What is really frightening is that his constituency cannot see through him. This man went to Harvard and is not a dumb person. He is conducting his self-promotion in ways that are guaranteed to propel him into the limelight. He is simply an actor, spewing things he truly does not believe, to rile up his voters. I wish to God some standout Republican would just publicly go off on him and call him out for it. It one did, perhaps others would follow. Yes, I know he has been privately castigated, but a public verbal flogging that makes all the cable shows is what is needed. Repeatedly.
Sam
2banon
(7,321 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)but I had a theory in the beginning he was "lip singing" and I am convinced he does not truly believe these things. He is putting on a performance. Watch his expressions and movements carefully, and I think you will soon consider this alternative. He is a very sly person.
Sam
2banon
(7,321 posts)I don't know if he is actually a "true believer" or putting on a con game, either way the results are the same to whatever extent of damage done and power he is able to acquire. In recent months, it actually seemed the wacko fundies who would be Cruz's "voter base" had gone by the wayside, but clearly I was wrong about that!
The American Taliban, good gawd.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)fleeing to Kenya and fathering the Pres. I loved that take! Sorry on blanking on the source.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)UTUSN
(70,744 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 13, 2013, 08:50 AM - Edit history (1)
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/11/ted-cruz-obama-will-start-quartering-soldiers-in-peoples-homes-soon/
[font size=5]Ted Cruz: Obama will start quartering soldiers in peoples homes soon[/font]
.... You look at our Constitution, you look at our Bill of Rights, this is an administration that seems bound and determined to violate every single one of our Bill or Rights, he explained.
Tyranny! a man in the audience shouted.
I dont know that theyve yet violated the Third Amendment, but I expect them to start quartering soldiers in peoples homes soon, the Texas Republican said.
Cruz added that the president was also violating the First Amendment by forcing businesses to cover birth control which he referred to as abortifacients in their employees health insurance plans.
This is an administration that is telling Christian companies like Hobby Lobby, is telling the Little Sisters of the Poor that they must provide abortifacients or pay millions of dollars in government fines, he opined.
Tyranny! the audience member yelled again.
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)That's good. Usually they hem and haw or lie about that part, even though it's clearly implied in the language of the GOP's HLA plank.
Great, Ted. Run for President in 2016 on an agenda of charging all the women in America who take oral contraceptives, with attempted murder. That would truly be a thing of beauty, to watch.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)excesses. I now think we outlawed public floggings a bit early.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)We aren't talking about a MENSA Symposium here
http://www.military.com/video/guns/rifles/the-best-gun-accidents-of-2011/1092731756001/
NCarolinawoman
(2,825 posts)He is hollow inside and he thrives on attention.
Yes, he's dangerous. Very much so.
dmr
(28,349 posts)Each time I see him, I get the willies.
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)That he is capable of significant intelligence is clear. Obtaining the position of clerk to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, is not something that just anyone can do.
Then the question is whether he actually believes this nonsense, or is a puppet, or is just trying to flatter his ego with the attention, or is trying to lock down the far right nutcase base of the party before attempting a move to the center. Whilst any one - or all - of these is/are believeable, my guess is that it is the latter that is the largest.
indepat
(20,899 posts)parent.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)since the onslaught of defunding Obamacare was a failure now their only alternative is to further put fear in the already crazies by telling them more outrageous lies. In other words, their coup have been a failure so far as to get the "American public" behind them, yet again, they, ahem the GOP party misinterpreted that the majority of Americans truly hated Obamacare. I think a lot of Americans know that if the GOPers are successful in dismantling ACA it will be in opening to further dismantle SSI and Medicare (Medicaid). Since ACA is apparently here to stay for awhile and is catching on fire (people really like it) it hinders GOPers from messing with the other programs.
Since they lost that fight what else is left. They consider "surrender" not plausible. Therefore why not take the whole country over the cliff and blame Obama. GOPers want a riot to ensue and the military to kick in = Obama with troops in your home.
Crazed Cruz and his cronies are some sick assholes.
Rebellious Republican
(5,029 posts)Fuck these little wanna be's, I have a better video to answer their wanna be hero asses. I am sure the marines, army and airforce could anti up as well. If my JSOC buddies can't or won't I will help them! Have them cued up!
Non sibi sed patriae is a Latin phrase meaning "Not for self, but for country". The phrase is inscribed over the chapel doors at the United States Naval Academy and some war memorials.
tblue
(16,350 posts)This country lacks a sense of community. The Teapublicans want it obliterated. We can't let them. Just no!
rustydog
(9,186 posts)Like the doofus who dropped his loaded handgun during the termination hearing of the "libtard-hating" police chief...
Those gun-toting goobers will believe just about anything a GOPher throws out there.
Make7
(8,543 posts)... you (Cruz) will just make the House vote on the clean CR the Senate already passed.
randome
(34,845 posts)That's why I thought the leaderless Occupy would be a fizzle. If no one of integrity and honor wants to step up and lead, we will find ourselves surrounded by assholes like Cruz.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
ruffburr
(1,190 posts)Dangerous to every american red or blue, It's that the red side can't see the forest for the tree's
spanone
(135,882 posts)...and he knows exactly what he's doing
EC
(12,287 posts)he would only study with upper crust college students from the top schools was because he copied their papers and memorized things they said to sound smart. I don't believe he really is smart, I think he's a succubus of the brains of those around him.
LuvNewcastle
(16,858 posts)But I think your right, otherwise.
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)create an event they can blame on Obama.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)If I have to see his stupid, self satisfied, smarmy, smirking face again today i might hurl. I hate his face, his nose, his lips, and his voice. And he's in love with all of those things.
Wait until his idiot followers find out that he led them to the red waste. They are going to tear into him like a pack of wolves, leaving him a mass of gnawed on bones and cartilage. And like Moses, the promised land is not for him to enter.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I just want video and audio of the fracas. It will be beautiful.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)It wouldn't be beautiful at all, just thoroughly deserved. Real dictators or genuine wannabes have a way of ending very, very badly. Khadaffi got off comparatively easy.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I just want him shamed loudly and publicly. I want people to come up to him and vent their disgust at him daily. I want his face to be next to McCarthy in the hall of shame yearbook.
I want something to look at when I'm politically depressed that will give me a little burst of pleasure.
I watched them build this guy up, now I want to see them tear him apart.
It's mean that I want these things but at least I can't shut down the government if I don't get my way.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)No, I don't really wish physical harm on anyone, not even Cruz unless it's a non-lethal but incurable pox of some kind he has to live with the rest of his life. But he does deserve public shaming, which to him would be worse than death. Other psychos need to see him as an object lesson, too, so maybe they'll at least cool their jets a little. We need to build a democracy safe from them. I for one favor the notion being bandied about of a law that would specifically prohibit their shenanigans, complete with the most severe consequences imaginable. Maybe they could be imprisoned for life and forced to listen to nonstop recordings of Boehner's voice exhorting them to hold fast.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)is "You KNOW the man's batshit crazy, don't you?"
How does a sane person answer such people?
But I totally agree the man's off his rocker and is terribly dangerous. I'm waiting for him to proclaim himself the literal Messiah, ready to call down Armageddon.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)We need to remember that 90% of the talk media is hate radio. Guys like Limbaugh are actually mild compared to a number of more local talk show hosts are just as or more vile and inciteful than Cruz. And most of the country hears only these people. There are no progressive talkers except in isolated parts of the nation. Go from Colorado to the coast and all there is is hate radio.
We have a lot of borderline edgy people on the edge who are extreme right wingers. And many of them are armed to the teeth.
Incidents do not happen in a vacuum. Then you have RW truckers saying they want to impeach Obama and arrest Pelosi and Reid.
We have an ugly recall now going on in Colorado by the gun nuts. They are accusing our state Senator of everything on the planet up to being a serial killer. They are calling her corrupt and evil to people they are trying to get to sign their recall petition.
Our Senator is one of the most honest and forthright politicians in Colorado yet these extremists are engaging in outright character assassination.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)FraDon
(518 posts)salivating to set it off
orthodoxies run amuck
ever so certain; NOW is our time
a rumbling, rolling volcano
the floor is warm; my toes are vibrating
so many cabals, spheres of influence
fortune$ aggregated; focused
it's feeling like a return of false-flag season
provocateurs abound
we need a wave of illuminated, bell-ringing
"Have you no shame?!" moments
never thought I'd note this: i welcome
the candor, conscience and courage of this new Pope
slavery never died; never stopped; has never ended
just got better lawyers and new PR departments
Southside
(338 posts)His words are reckless, adding more gasoline to incite his extremist base. His base wants to blow it all up.
Who can reign him in? My guess it will be violating a code of ethics, but funders could back a way and maybe Texas will get sick of him. He is so popular. I never heard of him before his filibuster where he mentioned death marches. I knew we were dealing with a high level flame thrower. A male Sarah Palin, putting targets on people and using the word death (death panels is her favorite) to scare the nation. I am sure they get paid very well to fan flames. We need to keep standing up to these provocateurs.
randr
(12,417 posts)The President and responsible members of the House and Senate need to stand tall and demand Cruz and ilk put up or shut up. They need to address these slanders on a national stage with a united front against insanity.
The bully is not the problem. The problem is no one standing up to the bully.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)with names of all the communists in the House and Senate...?