After Republicans filibuster debt ceiling bill, Senate Democrats reject GOP BS plan (updated)

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Senate Republicans block bill raising debt limit through 2014

by Laura Clawson

The Senate failed to get the 60 votes needed under the current, broken Senate rules to advance a bill raising the debt limit through 2014 early Saturday afternoon, with not one Republican joining Democrats to keep the United States from defaulting.

Some Senate Republicans continue working on a "compromise" plan, because even for allegedly semi-moderate Republicans, avoiding default is something over which hostage-taking is a reasonable goal. That proposal contains provisions that are probably a given at this point, like delaying a medical device tax for two years (medical device manufacturers having a lot of money which they spread around to a lot of politicians), but also reportedly contains some seriously worrying points, like:

... creating an income verification program under the Affordable Care Act to ensure only eligible individuals receive subsidies on the insurance exchanges.

That would be a poison pill that would virtually shut the exchanges down; possibly related:

RT @mkraju: NEWS: Senate Dem leaders rejecting Collins plan arguing it asks too much for too little. Focus now shifts to Reid and McConnell.
— @samsteinhp

Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is talking compromise:

McConnell, who has helped broker bipartisan deals in the past, has made clear that he's ready to talk, telling a home state newspaper that it's time for a "come together" moment and that he's wiling "to work with the government we have -- not the one I wish we had."

As long as that doesn't mean Vice President Joe Biden gets involved and gives away the farm. Senate Democrats and the White House have stood strong to this point. They need to keep doing that, or Republicans will only be emboldened to continue their hostage-taking ways.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/12/1246666/-Senate-Republicans-block-bill-raising-debt-limit-through-2014

This is why John McCain is an assclown.

McCain Would Like To See House Vote On Clean CR
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccain-would-like-to-see-house-vote-on-clean-cr

McCain: We Should Be 'Embarrassed' About Shutdown, GOP Pushed 'False Premise' on Obamacare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023809709

Susan Collins is an assclown.

Senate to vote on long-term debt ceiling hike, while Senate GOP plots poison pills
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023828542

Republican support in 'jaw-dropping' free fall
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023827531

Updated to add:

Reid is meeting with McConnell, but rejects concessions on shutdown or debt limit

by Laura Clawson

Senate Democratic leaders held a press conference Saturday afternoon on the future of the government shutdown and possibilities of default. Though the press conference was held just two hours after Republicans blocked a clean extension of the debt limit through 2014, Sen. Chuck Schumer said that, after a morning meeting with Majority Leader Harry Reid, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander, he was "considerably more optimistic today than I was yesterday." Reid, too, emphasized that McConnell being interested in meeting was a positive step, though it has so far yielded nothing conclusive.

That said, there's plenty of reason for concern after the failure of the clean debt limit extension. As Schumer said, "this is playing with fire. We don't know when the markets will react to this." And there are very definitely no guarantees the Reid-McConnell talks will succeed:

When asked if he is confident he could reach a deal with McConnell, Reid told POLITICO: “No.”

“I’m just doing my best, I’m not confident in anything in the way Republicans have acted,” the Nevada Democrat said.

While Senate Democrats are in active discussions with Republicans, Reid and the rest of the leaders speaking Saturday afternoon continued to reject Republican demands, with Reid saying "they're not doing us a favor by reopening the government. They're not doing us a favor by extending the debt ceiling. That's part of our jobs." So, no, Republicans won't get major concessions—including those proposed by Sen. Susan Collins—from Democrats just in exchange for doing a most basic part of their jobs.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/12/1246693/-Reid-is-meeting-with-McConnell-but-rejects-concessions-on-shutdown-or-debt-nbsp-limit

[Turbineguy]

1. They have income verification.

It just happens when you file next year's taxes. If you base the subsidy on a too low income level, you have to pay it back in taxes, interest and penalties.

[ProSense]

2. No doubt what these assholes are proposing

is to make the system dysfunctional and screw more people. They're focusing on the health care law, which has nothing to do with the debt ceiling or shutting down the Government.

Some Dems Say Medical Device Tax Repeal Is A 'Moronic' Idea
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/how-the-push-to-repeal-obamacare-s-medical-device-tax-gained-traction

[ProSense]

3. Kick! n/t

[Scurrilous]

4. K & R