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Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:29 PM Oct 2013

BREAKING NEWS



The WH just reported they have had a conference call with 150 business leaders
It's on and popping now!!!

ETA:

The republicans are admitting they have lost
I believe now with the pressure of the Business Community this Shutdown will end this weekend
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BREAKING NEWS (Original Post) Heather MC Oct 2013 OP
I'm not sure what you mean. mucifer Oct 2013 #1
The wheels are falling off the Republican Bus Heather MC Oct 2013 #4
They've been riding on the floor pan since O won the presidency. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #10
True but they didn't know that Heather MC Oct 2013 #11
They've thrown so many of their own under it TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #17
The wheels on the bus fall on the ground, on the ground, on the ground Heather MC Oct 2013 #21
The barren metal part of where the tires are suppose to be Iliyah Oct 2013 #35
The wheels of the bus go round and round, MoonRiver Oct 2013 #38
Telling them it is inevitable? Considering raising it himself? djean111 Oct 2013 #2
Obama can't Cave it would set a horrible Precedent for Future Presidents Heather MC Oct 2013 #6
Maybe we'll get the Boehner cave Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #13
TWINS!!!!!!!! Heather MC Oct 2013 #16
Obama won't cave Hekate Oct 2013 #24
And? Lex Oct 2013 #3
Mahalo Heather! Cha Oct 2013 #5
Not sure this is great news till after everything is open and the President doesn't bargain mucifer Oct 2013 #7
It was also Reported on Politics Nations Heather MC Oct 2013 #12
Obama is not moving any goalposts. He's not caving, either. Hekate Oct 2013 #25
YEP Cosmocat Oct 2013 #29
Kicked and recommended for hitting them on all fronts. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #8
Thanks Uncle Joe! Heather MC Oct 2013 #15
K&R Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #9
Good move O lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #14
I would never want to play him in a game of Chess Heather MC Oct 2013 #18
Why not? He didn't checkmate anyone. cui bono Oct 2013 #19
And next year at this time we can use this episode... ms liberty Oct 2013 #20
iiyo! sugoiii ne! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #22
wait and see mode for me SHRED Oct 2013 #23
Same here, but I am still holding out hope Heather MC Oct 2013 #26
me too SHRED Oct 2013 #33
K&R Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #27
Hope the optimism here is warranted ..... tweeternik Oct 2013 #28
I will be SUPER happy if this is what happens Cosmocat Oct 2013 #31
Yeah, that's the concern. n/t tweeternik Oct 2013 #34
I'm not sure I'm following this. arcane1 Oct 2013 #30
heh heh...repukes' traditional supporters BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #32
May it be so!!! meti57b Oct 2013 #36
If there is a Solution to avoid Default, it will be a 100% CONSERVATIVE one. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #37
I don't follow... but more importantly, "business leaders" is hardly a monolithic group. enki23 Oct 2013 #39

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
35. The barren metal part of where the tires are suppose to be
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:50 PM
Oct 2013

are still grinding the pavement and the GOPers are still inside hoping and praying to their GAWD for a miracle but ain't nothing happening so therefore they must go down in a blaze of glory all the while bringing down their fellow country.

Selfish much? I call it derange syndrome and a lack of reality. Recently read that even the GOPers are refusing to believe the current polls showing them in deep doo doo and they are saying - nope these polls are false. How in the hell can you deal with such contempt of any reality.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Telling them it is inevitable? Considering raising it himself?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

Minting that trillion dollar coin?
If he caves and gives the spending cuts the GOP want, after talking to business, that will not bode well for anyone.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
6. Obama can't Cave it would set a horrible Precedent for Future Presidents
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:37 PM
Oct 2013

The Republican's are admitting that Resistance is Futile

mucifer

(23,545 posts)
7. Not sure this is great news till after everything is open and the President doesn't bargain
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:40 PM
Oct 2013

away the important stuff. For me, it's wait and see. I would feel better if the dems were counter proposing progressive ideas. Why don't they answer the repubs who want to end Obamacare with the idea of filling in the gaps to make it work better for more people? Why don't they counter the repubs who want to shut down the EPA with the idea of more money to the EPA. Why do they always get to move the goalposts and not us?

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
12. It was also Reported on Politics Nations
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:51 PM
Oct 2013

that he Government may be reopened this weekend or Monday
and the Republicans appear to be offering a 1 year raise on the debt ceiling

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
29. YEP
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:41 PM
Oct 2013
that is my take, too!

All we are hearing is people breathlessly promoting the chances of a deal based on incredibly one sided proposals from the republicans.

Gee, the republicans are offering a 6 week period before they shut down the government again and blow up the debt ceiling,, but only if the president agrees to eliminate key tax funding for the ACA, agrees cuts to medicare and medicade and to sign away his only outs to pay the bills when the republican's blow up the debt ceiling.

I like Barrack Obama a good bit, but everytime we see these situations the only "proposals" are far right wet dreams and the resulting "deal" ends up being a good bit right of center.

Whisky
Tango
Foxtrot

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
15. Thanks Uncle Joe!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:54 PM
Oct 2013

Hopefully what is being reported on Politics nations is true and the Government will be Reopened by Monday and the Repugs are putting in a 1 year debt ceiling increase

but it's not over until it's done deal of course but everyday the conversation sounds better than the last

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
14. Good move O
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:52 PM
Oct 2013



He did an end run around the obstructionists and left them standing in the dust.

Something he should have done a long time ago. Now they look like even bigger
inept jerks if that is possible.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
19. Why not? He didn't checkmate anyone.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:14 PM
Oct 2013

What we ended up with is less spending than the Ryan budget. What we got is what the Republicans originally wanted.

I am very thankful he held out and played this part of it as he did, but we didn't exactly win anything, he just didn't let them blackmail us.

ms liberty

(8,577 posts)
20. And next year at this time we can use this episode...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:31 PM
Oct 2013

It will be in the news and right in the middle of the election cycle.

tweeternik

(255 posts)
28. Hope the optimism here is warranted .....
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:32 PM
Oct 2013

Obama won't cave this time. They'll get a clean CR and an increase on the ceiling soon (more then six weeks!). But "negotiations" will eventually begin on a budget deal. What do "we" give up then?

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
31. I will be SUPER happy if this is what happens
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:42 PM
Oct 2013

but from what has been released from the "negotiations" it would appear that what is agreed up will look MUCH worse.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
30. I'm not sure I'm following this.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:41 PM
Oct 2013

What pressure is the business community providing? What businesses? Will they want something in return?

I want to jump for joy but first I need to know what they discussed, and what happens next

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
37. If there is a Solution to avoid Default, it will be a 100% CONSERVATIVE one.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:13 PM
Oct 2013

So don't expect any DEM anything in it. Because bipartisanship.

enki23

(7,788 posts)
39. I don't follow... but more importantly, "business leaders" is hardly a monolithic group.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:25 PM
Oct 2013

They don't actually agree with each other about everything. The tea party "grass roots" aren't really financed by a coalition of all the "business leaders". They're mostly financed by a few really rich ones who happen to not give any fucks.

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