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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWelcome to the Friday Afternoon Challenge! Today, “Did you say something?”
What is the back story behind these works of art/architecture, as implied in the questions they pose?
And again, folks, we seriously do not cheat here...
1.
Ayudar! Mi piel se cae!
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2.
"Il semble que bon vieux temps!"
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3.
Nee, ik ben de beste!
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4.
Che cosa è questo chowdah?
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5.
"Puis-je être entre Tilla et les iris?
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6.
Ma, cest ma maison!
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longship
(40,416 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)I am tempted to translate #4 as "this bowl of chowder is not what I ordered." (Just for fun.)
Is #3 Van Gogh?
#5 translates to "I think I consumed too many mushrooms." Cubist.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Sigh!
There's undoubtedly hints there, but I am decidedly a monoglot.
#4 is Italian, I think.
Sorry.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)You are right about #4, it is Italian...but it's my Italian, which could be not so great...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)On special exhibit in D.C. at the Phillips Collection:
Repetitions
October 12, 2013 - January 26, 2014
Van Gogh Repetitions takes a fresh look at the artistic process of Vincent van Gogh (18531890). While recognized for the intensity and speed with which he painted, the artist could also work with careful deliberation, creating numerous versions of some of his most famous subjects. The first exhibition in Phillips Collection history devoted to the artist, Van Gogh Repetitions goes beneath the surface of some of his best-known paintings to examine how and why he repeated certain compositions during his 10-year career, inviting viewers to look more closely than ever before at van Goghs celebrated works.
Featuring 35 paintings and works on paper and examples of 13 repetitions, the exhibition is the first to focus on van Goghs repetitionsa term the artist used to describe his practice of creating more than one version of a particular subject. He often began by sketching a person or landscape rapidly from life. Back in the studio, he would repeat the subject, reworking and refining his idea on a fresh canvas, in some cases many times, to extract the essence of a motif.
Van Gogh Repetitions is inspired by The Road Menders (1889) in The Phillips Collection and a painting of the same subject, The Large Plane Trees (1889), in The Cleveland Museum of Art. The exhibition reunites the two masterpiecesnever before seen together in Washingtonand invites deep, focused study of the similarities and differences between them, revealing some surprising facts about van Goghs process and motivation. Changes among repetitions are also explored in van Goghs series of portraits of his friend Joseph Roulin and Roulins family. The exhibition also highlights the artists practice of repeating work by other artists, including Paul Gaugin. Created in significant locales in the Netherlands and in France, including Paris, Arles, Saint-Rémy, and Auvers, the works in the exhibition reveal the vitality and persistence of this method across van Goghs career.
The exhibition brings together portraits and landscapes from some of the worlds most renowned collections, including The Museum of Modern Art, New York; Museum of Fine Arts, Boston; Philadelphia Museum of Art; The Art Institute of Chicago; Kröller-Müller Museum, Otterlo; and the Van Gogh Museum, Amsterdam. Masterpieces from the Musée dOrsay, Paris, including The Bedroom at Arles (1889), are also showcased alongside paintings from the Phillipss permanent collection by artists van Gogh admired, including Gaugin, Honoré Daumier, and Rembrandt van Rijn, to create a richer, more meaningful picture of his personal life and artistic production.
The exhibition is organized by The Phillips Collection and The Cleveland Museum of Art.
Gallery at link:
http://www.phillipscollection.org/exhibitions/2013-10-12-exhibition-van-gogh-repetitions.aspx
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)So I went to the Phillips site to learn more and find images of the works included.
And, realizing that this would make a fine inclusion in the Challenge, I was ready in advance...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Wonderful! Isn't it nice?
This was actually a big piece in the NYT last weekend and it was a wonderful read. I hope you read it in your research, because I had no idea Van Gogh did so many "do-overs" or why. That article just explained it all to me, so much better than me wondering what the hell when I see the copies he did!
So my evil plot to enlarge consciousness on DU about art is making progress!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I got dibs on that Dutch guy.
And on the other Dutch guy too.
You know what, I'll start on next week:
#2 will NOT be Caravaggio.
So there.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I'm here, except when I'm not...ya know how that goes...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)BainsBane
(53,034 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)IcyPeas
(21,884 posts)I don't know what the caption says, nor do I know a backstory..... I'd have to do some research.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)IcyPeas
(21,884 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Curses.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)3. Van Gough
5. Picasso?
6. Matisse
4. Is some Italian guy
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Ya got #3 and #6 and #4. Do you know why they "say" what they say?
Help me, my skin is sagging
4. What is this! Chowda?
6. Mom, this is my house
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)In translation, # 6 is "But this is my house!" and # 4 is "What is this "chowdah?" (hint: Italian painting, Boston accent, etc...).
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)I guess because in 1, it sort of looks like the wall is falling? So the skin of the building is falling (se cae)
I don't know the connection between Italy and clam chowder.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)2. It seems like the good old days
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)BainsBane
(53,034 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Wondering, since the photo includes the two statues around the painting.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Is that what you're looking for? It's much broader than Gaugin, and marks a centennial...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Ciudad de las Artes y las Ciencias, The City of the Arts and Science, in the City of Valencia, Valencia, Spain, Europe
Don't know who the architect was though.
On edit: Designed by Santiago Calatrava and Félix Candela, assuming I'm right of course.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)...still looking.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Had to key it in.
Ugly building, IMHO.
Reminds me of the line from Da Vinci Code.
The Paris cop, Captain Bezu Fache, asks Robert Langdon:
"You like our pyramid?" (The Louvre)
No matter what Langdon's response, the cop says: "A scar on the face of Paris."
longship
(40,416 posts)It looks like an Escherian nightmare, and I'm being generous, too, because I like Escher.
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Boondoggle and already looking old.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)It was a front page story in the NY Times a while back, not even the Art Section. I am a fan of Calatrava and hope to get to Valencia to see the City of Arts and Sciences, because I think it is important, but I am disappointed to learn of this occurrence. It is too bad, really, for the city of Valencia who actually wanted Calatrava to do for Valencia what Gehry did for Bilbao. I have been to Bilbao and it is amazing. I would hope that Valencia would be just as amazing...but I wonder...
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Another Guggenheim Museum. Nice.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Ok, so it's Guggenheim. Hey, the Italian Renaissance had the Medici family business...
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Transferred himself and his fortune out of Spain to Switzerland. Sounds like another Gerard Depardieu.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/arts/design/santiago-calatrava-collects-critics-as-well-as-fans.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)it would be Ayudame! or maybe Socorro!
Ayudar is the infinitive. The rest was good.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)any better I trusted google translate...duh. My French and Italian a just a bit better since I studied both...
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)looks like sagging skin?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)these defects occurring so soon after they were created...
blogslut
(38,001 posts)Response to CTyankee (Original post)
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BainsBane
(53,034 posts)Oh no, that was the best!
Maybe his favorite painting in the series, or recalling the time when he pained the picture?
Seems to be responding to someone suggesting something negative.
I don't know Dutch at all, or any Germanic language other than English.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)BainsBane
(53,034 posts)It has to do with where the painting is placed at the met, between a Monet painting of Irises and Renoir's portrait of Tillia Duriex
The Met received a gift of a 78 Cubist paintings.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/arts/design/another-cubist-gift-for-the-met-and-new-art-at-metrotech.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
longship
(40,416 posts)But limited bandwidth prevented me from clicking through the 78 images.
Damn!
CTYankee, your challenges are just that, but they are both a lot of fun, and I learn a lot.
Thank you.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)I Googled Tilla and cubism and got the article that way.
longship
(40,416 posts)There was a slide show, but the controls were a bit dodgy on an iPhone, so I have up.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)You know when the Challenge is.
Plan ahea
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longship
(40,416 posts)Two bars on 4G and a 3GB monthly limit. No cable TV, no broadband, dirt roads, but lots of deer and other critters. Oh! And trees.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I have no problems with images or bandwidth, and I'm still having trouble finding some of these--even with the clues posted by others!
longship
(40,416 posts)I don't use much BW in spite of my heavy use here. The caching works well.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)BainsBane
(53,034 posts)that's in my earlier post.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)museum.
So THERE! You got it! Congrats!!!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Isn't this a great find? I love it. Oh, you are so GOOD!
I am so going to this exhibition...
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)a new acquisition, I assume.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)You win the chowdah for this one, lol!
An Italian Treasure, Stolen and Recovered
Another visiting masterpiece has arrived as part of the 2013 Year of Italian Culture. Piero della Francescas 15th-century tempera and oil on panel, the Senigallia Madonna (1470s) is normally on view in the Galleria Nazionale delle Marche, in the Ducal Palace of Urbino. This exceptional work by one of the masters of the Renaissance was one of three stolen paintings recovered in 1975 by Italys famed Carabinieri Cultural Heritage Protection Command (CCHPC), specializing in protection of Italys cultural heritage on a national and international level. Dont miss this magnificent loan by a fascinating artist.
http://www.mfa.org/exhibitions/visiting-masterpiece-piero-della-francesca%E2%80%99s-senigallia-madonna
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)that's not fair. I can't distinguish one Italian artist from another.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...the guy at left in the space helmet might have given it away.
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)not good...my son in law is a Bostonian and says "chowdah." We kid him about his accent...
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)But I have a date with my daughter to see it at the MFA in Boston on Nov. 4, so eat your heart out...
(not really, I wouldn't want that but I think this picture was in SF recently, wasn't it?)
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)The Senagallia Madonna is a fabulous piece of art. Its treatment of the light in the window in the background is a foretelling of Vermeer. It is a total masterpiece and should not have been in detail...my mistake...
BainsBane
(53,034 posts)because there are so many Italian Renaissance paintings.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Italian Renaissance art. Piero is a genius in this field.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)HAH! Big mistake. I ended up researching art of that era for a year and a half before I took an art intensive trip to Florence in 2010. By that time I had a list of masterpieces the length of my arm to find. It was an exhausting trip but it was wonderful, too. I came back tired as hell but I had seen heaven, really.
If you ever have a chance, go to Florence. It is amazing. You can't turn around in Florence without running into another masterpiece...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)exhibition.
You are absolutely correct about it being a recent exhibition. The Museum of Fine arts in Boston has the honor of having this very rare piece of art lent to them (and also to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC) because of their cooperation with Italy for returning Italian works of art that were in some question in the MFA and the MMA.
longship
(40,416 posts)Both French Impressionism, by my take.
I don't know about #2, but somebody suggested Gauguin.
#6 was guessed as Matisse, which I had as Gauguin originally. It does look like Matisse. (I am not very well educated in this stuff.)
Come on people, let's wrap this up. My curiosity is boiling over here, and all I have is an iPhone.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Image: View of a modern gallery at the Art Institute of Chicago with Matisses Bathers by a River. Photograph by Paul Warchol.
October 6, 2013 to February 16, 2014
One hundred years ago, the Art Institute of Chicago presented one of the most legendary displays of art ever held in Americathe International Exhibition of Modern Art, better known today as the Armory Show, after its first venue, the Lexington Avenue Armory in New York City. The exhibition brought to the United States of 1913 a dizzying array of brand-new art from Europe, joined with the newest trends in painting and sculpture by native-born artists1300 works by some 300 artists in total.
As it had in New York and would in Boston, the Armory Show aroused both the interest and scorn of collectors and the public. Paintings by Pablo Picasso, Henri Matisse, and Marcel Duchamp challenged accepted ideas of true art and threatened to upset the balance of American taste. In Chicago, only a few of the works in the show stayed behind, but the city had been afforded a glimpse of what was to come in the 20th century. Part of that future would involve the Art Institute of Chicago becoming one of the greatest collections of modern European art in the world.
Nearly 100 of the Art Institutes most outstanding masterpieces will be on view at the Kimbell in The Age of Picasso and Matisse: Modern Masters from the Art Institute of Chicago. This exhibitiona loan show of unprecedented depth and qualitywill allow residents of and visitors to another American city to appreciate Chicagos stupendous modern collection for the first time. Following upon the success of the Kimbells 2008 exhibition of Impressionist masterworks from the Art Institute, The Age of Picasso and Matisse will tell the story of European art in the first half of the 20th century through the holdings of one of the worlds best encyclopedic museums.
Picasso and Matisse, the artists whose names figure in the exhibitions title, were the towering geniuses of art in Europe from the first decade of the century until Matisses death in the 1950s. They were both friends and rivals, often (and simplistically) juxtaposed as the great organizer of formsPicassoand the great manipulator of colorsMatisse. Their paintings and sculpture will be found throughout the exhibition.
...
https://www.kimbellart.org/exhibition/age-picasso-and-matisse-modern-masters-art-institute-chicago
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Dallas has finally got the message and is upping its game. When I was growing up in Big D many years ago Ft. Worth got a lot of abuse, being called "Cow Town." Ha, ha....
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)'The Armory Show at 100: Modern Art and Revolution.' I wonder how many of these retrospectives are being held around the country. That 1913 show seems to have been pretty noteworthy in art history.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)The history of art in New York in the beginning of the 20th century is fascinating! I highly recommend study of it.
That armory show is historic. Look at all the artist who displayed! Incredible!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Your Challenges are more than fun games. I know I can't be the only art dunce who is learning a lot of fascinating stuff from your games. (In school we had to take either Music Appreciation or Art Appreciation, and I went with the first. )
Your passion seems to be infectious--in a good way.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)There is a very good book of essays on the Avant-Gardes, early 20th century, entitled "Art of the Avant-Gardes" edited by Steve Edwards and Paul Wood. Some of the essays are a little dense, but they are nonetheless very rewarding to read, if you are interested in that era. That book was recommended to me by a DUer who was using it in her art history course, college level.
You might also want to pick up the collections of art essays by John Updike and by Peter Schjeldahl (art critic of the New Yorker) that were published in the New York Review of Books and the New Yorker, respectively. The New Republic has an art critic also. Schjeldahl describes himself as a "short-winded" art reviewer (he never went to college or at least never graduated) but his stuff is just marvelous.
If you want to totally beat your brains out, you can try some of John Pope-Hennessey's art essays. But remember, you were warned...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I appreciate your interest. It sure does make doing these challenges rewarding to me!
Thank you!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)HINT: the backstory is sad...and infuriating at the same time...
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)by Henri Matisse, 1906 (on edit: 1916), sits in the Detroit Institute of Arts. Does the backstory have something to do with that city's bankruptcy and the plans that have been floated to sell or lease the art it has?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)one of dozens of masterpieces to be vulnerable to a sale. "The Window" was the first by Matisse to enter an American art museum collection.
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)should never have been allowed. And while I understand the difficulty of the Museum's position here --that, unfortunately, the collection is an "asset" of the city and therefore vulnerable in Detroit's financial collapse -- I wonder if the Obama Administration will consider fighting for a bailout sum that would be large enough to take care of the art as well as the retired workers. I don't pretend to know that much about the current situation but it looks like it's going in the wrong direction for the collection.
Watching those magnificent works being sold off, painting by painting, to private collectors who may but may not share them with the rest of the world, will be one of the saddest days of my life...
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)... is the story of a status-seeking business class. What is the Ford Foundation doing in New York? They should move to Detroit and throw their billions in income into backing new startups there and helping places like the DIA. They have no business passing out money to all and sundry when the town that made them is dying.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Why should they care about the DIA when they have New York's art treasures? And they certainly don't want to help the pensions of former workers..."starve the beast" is alive and well in their evil minds...