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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:43 PM Oct 2013

Welcome to the Friday Afternoon Challenge! Today, “Did you say something?”

What is the “back story” behind these works of art/architecture, as implied in the “questions” they pose?

And again, folks, we seriously do not cheat here...

1.
“Ayudar! Mi ‘piel’ se cae!”
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2.
"Il semble que bon vieux temps!"
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3.
“Nee, ik ben de beste!
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4.
“Che cosa è questo ‘chowdah’?”
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5.
"Puis-je être entre Tilla et les iris?
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6.
“Ma, c’est ma maison!”
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Welcome to the Friday Afternoon Challenge! Today, “Did you say something?” (Original Post) CTyankee Oct 2013 OP
First kick, second rec. nt longship Oct 2013 #1
Hi there! Any guesses? CTyankee Oct 2013 #2
I think #6 is clearly Gauguin. longship Oct 2013 #3
Well,you got #3 right! But the others...not so much... CTyankee Oct 2013 #6
Unfortunately, my iPhone wont let me copy/paste the text for input to Babelfish. longship Oct 2013 #11
Oh, sorry. I didn't know about that... CTyankee Oct 2013 #13
#3: Van Gogh - The Road Menders pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #4
Yup. How did you do this research? Impressive! CTyankee Oct 2013 #5
I'd seen an AP story on the exhibit in the news pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #7
Ha, now you are thinking like I do! It means are doing more research on art these days! CTyankee Oct 2013 #8
Dammit 39er, give somebody else a chance, lol jberryhill Oct 2013 #37
hey buddy, you had your chance...no whining.. CTyankee Oct 2013 #59
Next time I cut your ear off jberryhill Oct 2013 #60
Caravaggio...you never know when he'll pop up. Keep trying' buddy... CTyankee Oct 2013 #62
Forget it, Jake; it's CTyankee's Friday Challenge pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #65
Make that both ears, the hard way jberryhill Oct 2013 #88
You must be excited that there finally is a Dutch guy. BainsBane Oct 2013 #73
He's very prolific! pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #74
No, the OTHER Dutch boy jberryhill Oct 2013 #89
6 looks like a Matisse IcyPeas Oct 2013 #9
Oh, you can do google translate easily...and get the clue. You are getting there with #6... CTyankee Oct 2013 #10
ah, "this is my house" IcyPeas Oct 2013 #14
Shoot! I guessed Gauguin, but as soon as I read your response I saw it. longship Oct 2013 #12
1. looks like Santiago Calatrava BainsBane Oct 2013 #15
Oh, yes on #1! but what is the meaning of what is said? CTyankee Oct 2013 #19
Oh BainsBane Oct 2013 #24
I'm sorry. I was a little too funny...see above on Calatrava which is #1 CTyankee Oct 2013 #32
I'm not sure what you're asking BainsBane Oct 2013 #34
number 2 BainsBane Oct 2013 #27
Absolutely right. Why is the painting saying this? CTyankee Oct 2013 #36
Maybe recalling when Gaugin was in Tahiti? BainsBane Oct 2013 #40
Interesting idea. don't know, really...but these are really important... CTyankee Oct 2013 #63
Are the statues part of the question? Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #41
yes. The sculpture is definitely part of this exhibition. How could they not be? CTyankee Oct 2013 #64
I know what the exhibition is pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #68
a reference to "and here we are all together again." Reference to their previous "life." CTyankee Oct 2013 #85
Definitely that Italian guy jberryhill Oct 2013 #38
Think I found #1 Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #16
But the question is: what is Calatrava talking about? Why did his architecture "say" this? CTyankee Oct 2013 #17
So far I see it's being criticized as a boondoggle, Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #18
What does the clue say to you? CTyankee Oct 2013 #20
"Help! My skin sags!" longship Oct 2013 #30
I wouldn't be that generous about it. longship Oct 2013 #22
Calatrava’s showcase Ciudad de las Artes appears to be aging rapidly Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #23
Yessir! Exactly! CTyankee Oct 2013 #25
Made me look up Gehry and Bilbao Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #26
My evil plot succeeds! More DUers looking up art! CTyankee Oct 2013 #33
BTW, based on what I read in that story, I wouldn't be a fan of Calatrava. Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #28
Calatrava's mosaic of tiles "skin" was to recognize another Spanish architect pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #29
Also, one last thing, re the Spanish, Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #92
I thought it might be the infinitive but since I don't know CTyankee Oct 2013 #93
the texture on the white exterior BainsBane Oct 2013 #31
It's a matter of aging on this project that Calatrava designed. His critics have honed in on CTyankee Oct 2013 #35
No answers. No guesses. They're all lovely, especially #6. blogslut Oct 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Oct 2013 #39
3. BainsBane Oct 2013 #42
I was referring to the "best" of the two he painted on the same scene...a little joke... CTyankee Oct 2013 #76
I have number 5, Leger the Village BainsBane Oct 2013 #43
And damn! I was on the NYT article about the billion dollar cubism donation. longship Oct 2013 #45
the info is actually in the article itself BainsBane Oct 2013 #46
Me, too. But verifying this painting depends on see it. longship Oct 2013 #47
On Fridays at 5pm Eastern, an iPhone just won't do pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #50
Sorry, here in the Manistee National Forest, that's all we have. longship Oct 2013 #51
You're doing great despite those limitations pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #56
Thankfully DU has good software behind it. longship Oct 2013 #57
Of course, but where are they? CTyankee Oct 2013 #66
at the Metropolitan Museum of Art BainsBane Oct 2013 #71
Ouch! that hurts...I'm sorry... CTyankee Oct 2013 #61
You go it exactly right! It was all about that purchase by Lauder and his subsequent gift to the CTyankee Oct 2013 #86
Oh, you are so RIGHT! How wonderful of you! Congrats! CTyankee Oct 2013 #53
4. is at the Boston Museum of Art BainsBane Oct 2013 #44
#4: Piero della Francesca - Senigallia Madonna pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #48
She didn't post the whole picture BainsBane Oct 2013 #49
To be fair to CTyankee... pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #52
that and the fact the baby looks like an old man BainsBane Oct 2013 #69
and my reference is to Boston's clam chowder...sorry,I am being culturally east coast indifferent... CTyankee Oct 2013 #78
The famous 'Chowdah Madonna,' lol! pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #79
Great! CTyankee Oct 2013 #81
I apologize. My mistake. I shoulda posted the entire thing. CTyankee Oct 2013 #55
It would make it easier BainsBane Oct 2013 #67
You are so right. My aim is to make MORE accessible, not less. This is a masterpiece of early CTyankee Oct 2013 #70
I started my art hunt with the early Italian Renaissance, thinking it would be a piece of cake... CTyankee Oct 2013 #82
shoulda done that. My bad...will do in the future... CTyankee Oct 2013 #58
It is not an acquisition as much as it is a coup! They got themselves a really nice piece for CTyankee Oct 2013 #54
Still need #2 and #6. longship Oct 2013 #72
A bit of info on #2. CTyankee Oct 2013 #75
#2: Matisse - Bathers by a River pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #77
A wonderful coup by the Kimball, which is a fabulous museum in Fort Worth, Tx. CTyankee Oct 2013 #80
I stumbled onto the NY Historical Society centennial exhibit first pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #83
It absolutely is! CTyankee Oct 2013 #84
I can't thank you enough for introducing me to art and art history pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #87
Thank you! CTyankee Oct 2013 #94
Longship, I am incredibly flattered that you stuck by this effort with just an iPhone! CTyankee Oct 2013 #91
We have #6 left to decipher... CTyankee Oct 2013 #90
So, #6 is The Window, Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #95
yes, Benton, so sad. It is among the first pieces to be appraised by Christie's experts and would be CTyankee Oct 2013 #96
The Sack of Detroit. Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #97
This whole thing is godawful. The pitting of city employees pensions against the art collection CTyankee Oct 2013 #98
The story of Detroit ... Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #99
good point. I don't know what their incentive is to help save Detroit, tho. CTyankee Oct 2013 #100

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. I think #6 is clearly Gauguin.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:58 PM
Oct 2013

I am tempted to translate #4 as "this bowl of chowder is not what I ordered." (Just for fun.)

Is #3 Van Gogh?

#5 translates to "I think I consumed too many mushrooms." Cubist.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Unfortunately, my iPhone wont let me copy/paste the text for input to Babelfish.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:35 PM
Oct 2013

Sigh!

There's undoubtedly hints there, but I am decidedly a monoglot.
#4 is Italian, I think.

Sorry.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. Oh, sorry. I didn't know about that...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:37 PM
Oct 2013

You are right about #4, it is Italian...but it's my Italian, which could be not so great...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. #3: Van Gogh - The Road Menders
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:02 PM
Oct 2013

On special exhibit in D.C. at the Phillips Collection:

Van Gogh
Repetitions
October 12, 2013 - January 26, 2014

Van Gogh Repetitions takes a fresh look at the artistic process of Vincent van Gogh (1853–1890). While recognized for the intensity and speed with which he painted, the artist could also work with careful deliberation, creating numerous versions of some of his most famous subjects. The first exhibition in Phillips Collection history devoted to the artist, Van Gogh Repetitions goes beneath the surface of some of his best-known paintings to examine how and why he repeated certain compositions during his 10-year career, inviting viewers to look more closely than ever before at van Gogh’s celebrated works.

Featuring 35 paintings and works on paper and examples of 13 repetitions, the exhibition is the first to focus on van Gogh’s “repetitions”—a term the artist used to describe his practice of creating more than one version of a particular subject. He often began by sketching a person or landscape rapidly from life. Back in the studio, he would repeat the subject, reworking and refining his idea on a fresh canvas, in some cases many times, to extract the essence of a motif.

Van Gogh Repetitions is inspired by The Road Menders (1889) in The Phillips Collection and a painting of the same subject, The Large Plane Trees (1889), in The Cleveland Museum of Art. The exhibition reunites the two masterpieces—never before seen together in Washington—and invites deep, focused study of the similarities and differences between them, revealing some surprising facts about van Gogh’s process and motivation. Changes among repetitions are also explored in van Gogh’s series of portraits of his friend Joseph Roulin and Roulin’s family. The exhibition also highlights the artist’s practice of repeating work by other artists, including Paul Gaugin. Created in significant locales in the Netherlands and in France, including Paris, Arles, Saint-Rémy, and Auvers, the works in the exhibition reveal the vitality and persistence of this method across van Gogh’s career.

The exhibition brings together portraits and landscapes from some of the world’s most renowned collections, including The Museum of Modern Art, New York; Museum of Fine Arts, Boston; Philadelphia Museum of Art; The Art Institute of Chicago; Kröller-Müller Museum, Otterlo; and the Van Gogh Museum, Amsterdam. Masterpieces from the Musée d’Orsay, Paris, including The Bedroom at Arles (1889), are also showcased alongside paintings from the Phillips’s permanent collection by artists van Gogh admired, including Gaugin, Honoré Daumier, and Rembrandt van Rijn, to create a richer, more meaningful picture of his personal life and artistic production.


The exhibition is organized by The Phillips Collection and The Cleveland Museum of Art.

Gallery at link:
http://www.phillipscollection.org/exhibitions/2013-10-12-exhibition-van-gogh-repetitions.aspx


pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. I'd seen an AP story on the exhibit in the news
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:22 PM
Oct 2013

So I went to the Phillips site to learn more and find images of the works included.

And, realizing that this would make a fine inclusion in the Challenge, I was ready in advance...




CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. Ha, now you are thinking like I do! It means are doing more research on art these days!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:30 PM
Oct 2013

Wonderful! Isn't it nice?

This was actually a big piece in the NYT last weekend and it was a wonderful read. I hope you read it in your research, because I had no idea Van Gogh did so many "do-overs" or why. That article just explained it all to me, so much better than me wondering what the hell when I see the copies he did!

So my evil plot to enlarge consciousness on DU about art is making progress!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
60. Next time I cut your ear off
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:00 PM
Oct 2013

I got dibs on that Dutch guy.

And on the other Dutch guy too.

You know what, I'll start on next week:

#2 will NOT be Caravaggio.

So there.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
62. Caravaggio...you never know when he'll pop up. Keep trying' buddy...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:04 PM
Oct 2013

I'm here, except when I'm not...ya know how that goes...

IcyPeas

(21,884 posts)
9. 6 looks like a Matisse
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:33 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know what the caption says, nor do I know a backstory..... I'd have to do some research.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. Oh, yes on #1! but what is the meaning of what is said?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:05 PM
Oct 2013

Ya got #3 and #6 and #4. Do you know why they "say" what they say?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
32. I'm sorry. I was a little too funny...see above on Calatrava which is #1
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:24 PM
Oct 2013

In translation, # 6 is "But this is my house!" and # 4 is "What is this "chowdah?" (hint: Italian painting, Boston accent, etc...).

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
34. I'm not sure what you're asking
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:28 PM
Oct 2013

I guess because in 1, it sort of looks like the wall is falling? So the skin of the building is falling (se cae)

I don't know the connection between Italy and clam chowder.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
41. Are the statues part of the question?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:39 PM
Oct 2013

Wondering, since the photo includes the two statues around the painting.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
68. I know what the exhibition is
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:10 PM
Oct 2013

Is that what you're looking for? It's much broader than Gaugin, and marks a centennial...

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
16. Think I found #1
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:59 PM
Oct 2013

Ciudad de las Artes y las Ciencias, The City of the Arts and Science, in the City of Valencia, Valencia, Spain, Europe

Don't know who the architect was though.

On edit: Designed by Santiago Calatrava and Félix Candela, assuming I'm right of course.

longship

(40,416 posts)
30. "Help! My skin sags!"
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:24 PM
Oct 2013

Had to key it in.

Ugly building, IMHO.

Reminds me of the line from Da Vinci Code.

The Paris cop, Captain Bezu Fache, asks Robert Langdon:
"You like our pyramid?" (The Louvre)

No matter what Langdon's response, the cop says: "A scar on the face of Paris."

longship

(40,416 posts)
22. I wouldn't be that generous about it.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:08 PM
Oct 2013

It looks like an Escherian nightmare, and I'm being generous, too, because I like Escher.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. Yessir! Exactly!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:20 PM
Oct 2013

It was a front page story in the NY Times a while back, not even the Art Section. I am a fan of Calatrava and hope to get to Valencia to see the City of Arts and Sciences, because I think it is important, but I am disappointed to learn of this occurrence. It is too bad, really, for the city of Valencia who actually wanted Calatrava to do for Valencia what Gehry did for Bilbao. I have been to Bilbao and it is amazing. I would hope that Valencia would be just as amazing...but I wonder...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
33. My evil plot succeeds! More DUers looking up art!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

Ok, so it's Guggenheim. Hey, the Italian Renaissance had the Medici family business...

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
28. BTW, based on what I read in that story, I wouldn't be a fan of Calatrava.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:24 PM
Oct 2013

Transferred himself and his fortune out of Spain to Switzerland. Sounds like another Gerard Depardieu.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
29. Calatrava's mosaic of tiles "skin" was to recognize another Spanish architect
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:24 PM
Oct 2013
One Valencia architect, Vicente Blasco, has taken Mr. Calatrava to task in a local newspaper for even trying to cover the steel sides of the opera house with a mosaic of broken white tiles. (That touch was Mr. Calatrava’s nod to another noted architect of Spain, Antoni Gaudí, who favored mosaics.) The flourish may have been a nice idea, Mr. Blasco said, but it was absurd. The buckling that is now occurring was predictable. On days with a rapid change in temperature, he wrote, the steel and tile contract and expand at different rates.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/arts/design/santiago-calatrava-collects-critics-as-well-as-fans.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
92. Also, one last thing, re the Spanish,
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:59 AM
Oct 2013

it would be Ayudame! or maybe Socorro!
Ayudar is the infinitive. The rest was good.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
93. I thought it might be the infinitive but since I don't know
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:47 AM
Oct 2013

any better I trusted google translate...duh. My French and Italian a just a bit better since I studied both...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. It's a matter of aging on this project that Calatrava designed. His critics have honed in on
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:29 PM
Oct 2013

these defects occurring so soon after they were created...

Response to CTyankee (Original post)

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
42. 3.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:44 PM
Oct 2013

Oh no, that was the best!

Maybe his favorite painting in the series, or recalling the time when he pained the picture?
Seems to be responding to someone suggesting something negative.

I don't know Dutch at all, or any Germanic language other than English.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
43. I have number 5, Leger the Village
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:57 PM
Oct 2013

It has to do with where the painting is placed at the met, between a Monet painting of Irises and Renoir's portrait of Tillia Duriex

It also joins an interesting and varied group of other paintings from 1914 that are in the Met’s collection. These include Monet’s “Path Through the Irises“ and Renoir’s portrait of the actress Tilla Durieux. “It’s fascinating the diverse responses to the political instability that was engulfing Europe,” Ms. Rabinow said.


The Met received a gift of a 78 Cubist paintings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/arts/design/another-cubist-gift-for-the-met-and-new-art-at-metrotech.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

longship

(40,416 posts)
45. And damn! I was on the NYT article about the billion dollar cubism donation.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:13 PM
Oct 2013

But limited bandwidth prevented me from clicking through the 78 images.

Damn!

CTYankee, your challenges are just that, but they are both a lot of fun, and I learn a lot.

Thank you.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
46. the info is actually in the article itself
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:14 PM
Oct 2013

I Googled Tilla and cubism and got the article that way.

longship

(40,416 posts)
47. Me, too. But verifying this painting depends on see it.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:18 PM
Oct 2013

There was a slide show, but the controls were a bit dodgy on an iPhone, so I have up.


longship

(40,416 posts)
51. Sorry, here in the Manistee National Forest, that's all we have.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:30 PM
Oct 2013

Two bars on 4G and a 3GB monthly limit. No cable TV, no broadband, dirt roads, but lots of deer and other critters. Oh! And trees.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
56. You're doing great despite those limitations
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:49 PM
Oct 2013

I have no problems with images or bandwidth, and I'm still having trouble finding some of these--even with the clues posted by others!

longship

(40,416 posts)
57. Thankfully DU has good software behind it.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:56 PM
Oct 2013

I don't use much BW in spite of my heavy use here. The caching works well.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
86. You go it exactly right! It was all about that purchase by Lauder and his subsequent gift to the
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:06 PM
Oct 2013

museum.

So THERE! You got it! Congrats!!!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
53. Oh, you are so RIGHT! How wonderful of you! Congrats!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:37 PM
Oct 2013

Isn't this a great find? I love it. Oh, you are so GOOD!

I am so going to this exhibition...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
48. #4: Piero della Francesca - Senigallia Madonna
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:23 PM
Oct 2013

You win the chowdah for this one, lol!

Visiting Masterpiece: Piero della Francesca’s Senigallia Madonna

An Italian Treasure, Stolen and Recovered


Another visiting masterpiece has arrived as part of the 2013 Year of Italian Culture. Piero della Francesca’s 15th-century tempera and oil on panel, the Senigallia Madonna (1470s) is normally on view in the Galleria Nazionale delle Marche, in the Ducal Palace of Urbino. This exceptional work by one of the masters of the Renaissance was one of three stolen paintings recovered in 1975 by Italy’s famed Carabinieri Cultural Heritage Protection Command (CCHPC), specializing in protection of Italy’s cultural heritage on a national and international level. Don’t miss this magnificent loan by a fascinating artist.

http://www.mfa.org/exhibitions/visiting-masterpiece-piero-della-francesca%E2%80%99s-senigallia-madonna





BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
49. She didn't post the whole picture
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:25 PM
Oct 2013

that's not fair. I can't distinguish one Italian artist from another.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
78. and my reference is to Boston's clam chowder...sorry,I am being culturally east coast indifferent...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:48 PM
Oct 2013

not good...my son in law is a Bostonian and says "chowdah." We kid him about his accent...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
81. Great!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oct 2013

But I have a date with my daughter to see it at the MFA in Boston on Nov. 4, so eat your heart out...

(not really, I wouldn't want that but I think this picture was in SF recently, wasn't it?)

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
55. I apologize. My mistake. I shoulda posted the entire thing.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:46 PM
Oct 2013

The Senagallia Madonna is a fabulous piece of art. Its treatment of the light in the window in the background is a foretelling of Vermeer. It is a total masterpiece and should not have been in detail...my mistake...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
70. You are so right. My aim is to make MORE accessible, not less. This is a masterpiece of early
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:12 PM
Oct 2013

Italian Renaissance art. Piero is a genius in this field.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
82. I started my art hunt with the early Italian Renaissance, thinking it would be a piece of cake...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:58 PM
Oct 2013

HAH! Big mistake. I ended up researching art of that era for a year and a half before I took an art intensive trip to Florence in 2010. By that time I had a list of masterpieces the length of my arm to find. It was an exhausting trip but it was wonderful, too. I came back tired as hell but I had seen heaven, really.

If you ever have a chance, go to Florence. It is amazing. You can't turn around in Florence without running into another masterpiece...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
54. It is not an acquisition as much as it is a coup! They got themselves a really nice piece for
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:43 PM
Oct 2013

exhibition.

You are absolutely correct about it being a recent exhibition. The Museum of Fine arts in Boston has the honor of having this very rare piece of art lent to them (and also to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC) because of their cooperation with Italy for returning Italian works of art that were in some question in the MFA and the MMA.

longship

(40,416 posts)
72. Still need #2 and #6.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:14 PM
Oct 2013

Both French Impressionism, by my take.

I don't know about #2, but somebody suggested Gauguin.

#6 was guessed as Matisse, which I had as Gauguin originally. It does look like Matisse. (I am not very well educated in this stuff.)

Come on people, let's wrap this up. My curiosity is boiling over here, and all I have is an iPhone.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
77. #2: Matisse - Bathers by a River
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:46 PM
Oct 2013
The Age of Picasso and Matisse: Modern Masters from The Art Institute of Chicago


Image: View of a modern gallery at the Art Institute of Chicago with Matisse’s Bathers by a River. Photograph by Paul Warchol.


October 6, 2013 to February 16, 2014

One hundred years ago, the Art Institute of Chicago presented one of the most legendary displays of art ever held in America—the International Exhibition of Modern Art, better known today as the Armory Show, after its first venue, the Lexington Avenue Armory in New York City. The exhibition brought to the United States of 1913 a dizzying array of brand-new art from Europe, joined with the newest trends in painting and sculpture by native-born artists—1300 works by some 300 artists in total.

As it had in New York and would in Boston, the Armory Show aroused both the interest and scorn of collectors and the public. Paintings by Pablo Picasso, Henri Matisse, and Marcel Duchamp challenged accepted ideas of “true art” and threatened to upset the balance of American taste. In Chicago, only a few of the works in the show stayed behind, but the city had been afforded a glimpse of what was to come in the 20th century. Part of that future would involve the Art Institute of Chicago becoming one of the greatest collections of modern European art in the world.

Nearly 100 of the Art Institute’s most outstanding masterpieces will be on view at the Kimbell in The Age of Picasso and Matisse: Modern Masters from the Art Institute of Chicago. This exhibition—a loan show of unprecedented depth and quality—will allow residents of and visitors to another American city to appreciate Chicago’s stupendous modern collection for the first time. Following upon the success of the Kimbell’s 2008 exhibition of Impressionist masterworks from the Art Institute, The Age of Picasso and Matisse will tell the story of European art in the first half of the 20th century through the holdings of one of the world’s best encyclopedic museums.

Picasso and Matisse, the artists whose names figure in the exhibition’s title, were the towering geniuses of art in Europe from the first decade of the century until Matisse’s death in the 1950s. They were both friends and rivals, often (and simplistically) juxtaposed as the great organizer of forms—Picasso—and the great manipulator of colors—Matisse. Their paintings and sculpture will be found throughout the exhibition.

...


https://www.kimbellart.org/exhibition/age-picasso-and-matisse-modern-masters-art-institute-chicago


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
80. A wonderful coup by the Kimball, which is a fabulous museum in Fort Worth, Tx.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:51 PM
Oct 2013

Dallas has finally got the message and is upping its game. When I was growing up in Big D many years ago Ft. Worth got a lot of abuse, being called "Cow Town." Ha, ha....

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
83. I stumbled onto the NY Historical Society centennial exhibit first
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:58 PM
Oct 2013

'The Armory Show at 100: Modern Art and Revolution.' I wonder how many of these retrospectives are being held around the country. That 1913 show seems to have been pretty noteworthy in art history.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
84. It absolutely is!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:02 PM
Oct 2013

The history of art in New York in the beginning of the 20th century is fascinating! I highly recommend study of it.

That armory show is historic. Look at all the artist who displayed! Incredible!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
87. I can't thank you enough for introducing me to art and art history
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:35 PM
Oct 2013

Your Challenges are more than fun games. I know I can't be the only art dunce who is learning a lot of fascinating stuff from your games. (In school we had to take either Music Appreciation or Art Appreciation, and I went with the first. )

Your passion seems to be infectious--in a good way.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
94. Thank you!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 12:00 PM
Oct 2013

There is a very good book of essays on the Avant-Gardes, early 20th century, entitled "Art of the Avant-Gardes" edited by Steve Edwards and Paul Wood. Some of the essays are a little dense, but they are nonetheless very rewarding to read, if you are interested in that era. That book was recommended to me by a DUer who was using it in her art history course, college level.

You might also want to pick up the collections of art essays by John Updike and by Peter Schjeldahl (art critic of the New Yorker) that were published in the New York Review of Books and the New Yorker, respectively. The New Republic has an art critic also. Schjeldahl describes himself as a "short-winded" art reviewer (he never went to college or at least never graduated) but his stuff is just marvelous.

If you want to totally beat your brains out, you can try some of John Pope-Hennessey's art essays. But remember, you were warned...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
91. Longship, I am incredibly flattered that you stuck by this effort with just an iPhone!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:05 AM
Oct 2013

I appreciate your interest. It sure does make doing these challenges rewarding to me!

Thank you!

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
95. So, #6 is The Window,
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 07:04 PM
Oct 2013

by Henri Matisse, 1906 (on edit: 1916), sits in the Detroit Institute of Arts. Does the backstory have something to do with that city's bankruptcy and the plans that have been floated to sell or lease the art it has?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
96. yes, Benton, so sad. It is among the first pieces to be appraised by Christie's experts and would be
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:30 PM
Oct 2013

one of dozens of masterpieces to be vulnerable to a sale. "The Window" was the first by Matisse to enter an American art museum collection.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
98. This whole thing is godawful. The pitting of city employees pensions against the art collection
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 07:56 AM
Oct 2013

should never have been allowed. And while I understand the difficulty of the Museum's position here --that, unfortunately, the collection is an "asset" of the city and therefore vulnerable in Detroit's financial collapse -- I wonder if the Obama Administration will consider fighting for a bailout sum that would be large enough to take care of the art as well as the retired workers. I don't pretend to know that much about the current situation but it looks like it's going in the wrong direction for the collection.

Watching those magnificent works being sold off, painting by painting, to private collectors who may but may not share them with the rest of the world, will be one of the saddest days of my life...

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
99. The story of Detroit ...
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 09:09 AM
Oct 2013

... is the story of a status-seeking business class. What is the Ford Foundation doing in New York? They should move to Detroit and throw their billions in income into backing new startups there and helping places like the DIA. They have no business passing out money to all and sundry when the town that made them is dying.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
100. good point. I don't know what their incentive is to help save Detroit, tho.
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 09:33 AM
Oct 2013

Why should they care about the DIA when they have New York's art treasures? And they certainly don't want to help the pensions of former workers..."starve the beast" is alive and well in their evil minds...

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