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DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:23 PM Oct 2013

I've noticed some real bad spellin' on DU lately

I don't know if y'all have noticed but there seems to be some really bad spellin' and some darn right awful bad grammar on DU lately.

I call it the "200 club". It's this sudden rash of anti-health care, anti-Obama, Anti-democrat postings that are wrapped up in little stories about personal experience. And they all seem to come from members who are hitting the 200s in their posts. ' I have this cousin's friend's sister who is going to have to pay thousands more in health care. Obama has really, really hurt them".

So I'd just like to say hello to that DU Troll who is quietly trying to manipulate the conversation on here. Hello and welcome to DU. We know you are here, we can smell your dirty little tricks a mile away. You think you are very smart but the twisted logic you use only works on the under-educated and the stupid.

This place is about sourcing facts. You never do that. Just an emotional tale of woe brought upon you by insuring the uninsured. Another family ripped apart by the evils of Obamacare. Another plea we shouldn't support the President based on some flimsy story about an Uncle's, sheep sheerer's nephew who has a friend whose life has been ruined because he now has to be insured. Always a low poster, a new member or, sometimes, a similar story with similar phrasing coming from several different posters over the course of a few days...and all with similar numbers of posts.

So, a pardon to new DUers who are here for excellent conversation. If you are in the 100-200 # of postings I am skeptical of you. There are trolls here who take great pleasure in trying to wreck things. As we weed them out by their terrible logic, and their lies you must pardon us as we get to know you. But please accept our welcome. We are thrilled to have you here and look forward to you sharing your knowledge and insight.

But there is mischief afoot. Luckily by fools. Fools who don't spel so good.

Happy Weekend everybody and a big welcome to all the new DUers this round of Washington craziness has brought us!



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I've noticed some real bad spellin' on DU lately (Original Post) DonRedwood Oct 2013 OP
Well Don, it does not help that some of us are giving up nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #1
I've taken breaks before as well DonRedwood Oct 2013 #6
??? Skittles Oct 2013 #85
I think she has, for the most part. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #94
They are, don't help anymore nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #95
I don't have a single person on ignore. DonRedwood Oct 2013 #116
She has 85% of DU on ignore. Codeine Oct 2013 #145
I like nadin Skittles Oct 2013 #154
As someone with a very low post count yourmovemonkey Oct 2013 #143
Your comment IS INDEED very articulate. pangaia Oct 2013 #144
Thanks, just that some of us have had it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #146
f*** them, nadin Skittles Oct 2013 #155
Huked on fonix wurked fur mee! (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #2
Curious that poor spelling goes along with distorted facts. Duh. Giveaway to poor education. northoftheborder Oct 2013 #3
Sorry but education does not equal Egnever Oct 2013 #11
or good spelling. DonRedwood Oct 2013 #16
They may have dun gone to skool but they wurnt edjumacated.... MADem Oct 2013 #54
Cruz to name one ThomThom Oct 2013 #81
You're right, i was stretching the analogy. northoftheborder Oct 2013 #112
Example #1: Ted Cruz spooky3 Oct 2013 #135
I have only one thing to add, to wit(less): Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #151
Well don't shoot me. UncleYoder Oct 2013 #4
Well, I welcome you personally DonRedwood Oct 2013 #9
LOL n/t jtuck004 Oct 2013 #102
I hadn't heard that reference in a loooong time! Gore1FL Oct 2013 #148
So, where DO you keep your Commie flag? Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #153
That song always makes me smile. UncleYoder Oct 2013 #156
From back in the days before Charlie turned on us. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #157
Thanks! I needed that lunatica Oct 2013 #5
This low count poster is Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2013 #7
A very hearty welcome! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #10
Some people put spaces after commas and between sentences. Flatulo Oct 2013 #88
You misspelled "good" Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #93
My spelling sucks Egnever Oct 2013 #8
But, that's why there is a "Check Spelling" button. Easy to use, by "Post My Reply" nt AnotherDreamWeaver Oct 2013 #14
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh DonRedwood Oct 2013 #19
Sorry, (But reality can be explained to trolls in many ways and they still don't understand.) AnotherDreamWeaver Oct 2013 #28
"check spelling" gives you options. louis-t Oct 2013 #33
Spelling Deniers! DontTreadOnMe Oct 2013 #53
Or you could just use chrome Egnever Oct 2013 #21
Chrome is evil. Google has gone to the dark side, haven't you heard? We'll be spying on you now: freshwest Oct 2013 #121
There is?? Good lord, I NEVER saw that before. Seriously. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #47
Cause "Check Spelling" is a gateway to SATAN!!!!!!! ajk2821 Oct 2013 #60
You may have something there. Speaking is "Casting a spell" of sorts... nt AnotherDreamWeaver Oct 2013 #71
DARN-- you were NOT supposed to give that little fact away!! niyad Oct 2013 #84
Correct. And the more articulate ones are the most dangerous ones. totodeinhere Oct 2013 #36
But correct usage of adverbs says a lot, too. aka-chmeee Oct 2013 #48
Bunch of loosers. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #12
morans DonRedwood Oct 2013 #13
Series. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #15
Oh no! Know your doing it to. n/t ieoeja Oct 2013 #18
Did you see the thread in LBN? WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #22
Holy Grist Almighty, how did they manage that? Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #38
Anyone can make a typo. I'm terrible at that but I'm not a troll either. totodeinhere Oct 2013 #42
It's the thinkos that can be really embarrassing ThomThom Oct 2013 #83
But they recalled them, and now the ones that are still out there are worth a fortune. Squinch Oct 2013 #110
Ooooooh, I HATE that one. louis-t Oct 2013 #34
This is hugh! nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #40
"Loosers" is in my top three ARRRGHH HOW CAN THEY BE SO DUMB spelling quirks. IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #76
Definately. Iggo Oct 2013 #101
That's the one... TeeYiYi Oct 2013 #122
O grate. a speelin nasi! Rex Oct 2013 #17
I love when they switch between the bad spelling and complex discourse alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #20
That one had me vacillating between tears of laughter and pain REP Oct 2013 #79
You must mean "anti-democratic" not "anti-democrat", right? nt valerief Oct 2013 #23
Both :0) DonRedwood Oct 2013 #25
As a newbie, I find it interesting that you can detect moles. Southside Oct 2013 #24
Welcome! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #27
Thank You Southside Oct 2013 #72
The typical pattern is to make a few brief posts jeff47 Oct 2013 #30
and then they get mad and the facade crumbles DonRedwood Oct 2013 #44
I'm pretty sure I know which two you mean. Been noticing lack of support for anything Democratic for kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #52
That works the other way too Fumesucker Oct 2013 #119
Wowzer!!! chervilant Oct 2013 #134
Yet he still has a 40% chance of appearing on juries? Huh? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #152
I use "repukes" all the time, lol, and I am pretty sure I'm not a teabagger or RW er of any sort. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #50
I luv the ACA. Rozlee Oct 2013 #26
Rozlee Diclotican Oct 2013 #46
* Rozlee Oct 2013 #49
Rozlee Diclotican Oct 2013 #75
I always enjoy your posts, Diclotican steve2470 Oct 2013 #64
steve2470 Diclotican Oct 2013 #74
One generation back here... malokvale77 Oct 2013 #107
malokvale77 Diclotican Oct 2013 #111
Yes, it was about Breivik. malokvale77 Oct 2013 #114
malokvale77 Diclotican Oct 2013 #117
That's pretty much the way my grandmother told it. malokvale77 Oct 2013 #118
*1 from me as well DonRedwood Oct 2013 #124
good point Chaco Dundee Oct 2013 #89
welcome Chaco DUndee DonRedwood Oct 2013 #126
My spelling is horrible! mecherosegarden Oct 2013 #29
I have to use spell check religiously DonRedwood Oct 2013 #45
So do I. I don't post until I have run the spell check. RebelOne Oct 2013 #61
I was a copy editor right out of college! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #136
good luck with your job search ! steve2470 Oct 2013 #66
Thank you! mecherosegarden Oct 2013 #90
oh pls BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #31
Hello and welcome! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #127
Good call, DonRedwood, but don't you know Aldo Leopold Oct 2013 #32
Sh...shep....shooopp... louis-t Oct 2013 #37
Whatever it is, except a sheepish welcome to DU DonRedwood Oct 2013 #128
... sadly, some of them offset the 'WOW! It's better than wonderbread!' infomercial posts ... Myrina Oct 2013 #35
Disgruntled Dems don't copy/paste their grievances leftstreet Oct 2013 #39
Yeah, I can see some of it too IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #41
Let me welcome you to DU! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #125
they mispel a lot. Coyotl Oct 2013 #43
splell chek iz yore freind L0oniX Oct 2013 #51
Could you tell me OldEurope Oct 2013 #55
Another idea here... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2013 #56
I've been here for a long time ybbor Oct 2013 #57
Well, congrats on breaking 100! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #129
I'm a low count poster watoos Oct 2013 #58
Welcome watoos! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #130
"This place is about sourcing facts." murielm99 Oct 2013 #59
And then there's autocorrect. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #62
I love it here... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #63
Shhhhhhhhhh... AsahinaKimi Oct 2013 #67
bwahahahahaha! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #68
Who needs spellin? JeffHead Oct 2013 #65
You tell'em Don... fadedrose Oct 2013 #69
I need a grammar check program. n/t ChazII Oct 2013 #70
Im just a moran, sorry DJ13 Oct 2013 #73
*shearer Richardo Oct 2013 #77
As requested valerief Oct 2013 #82
Awwww.....how the fuck do i unwatch this???? Theyletmeeatcake2 Oct 2013 #97
That's the correct reaction. nt valerief Oct 2013 #100
My spelling is quite good, I think DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #78
dont be talcing about my langwage. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #80
Yuppie Third Way corporatist trolls who can pay for private insurance are calling Zorra Oct 2013 #86
I spel gooder when I tryed ta... Buddaman Oct 2013 #87
Helter Skelter (NT) The Wizard Oct 2013 #91
K and R for the disgusting teabaggers Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #92
We suffer fools relatively gladly Mira Oct 2013 #96
The fires are stoked. Let the witch hunt begin! last1standing Oct 2013 #98
Hey! I only have 200-something posts and I'm not a troll! Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #99
You're just very full of good news tonight! Welcome to DU DonRedwood Oct 2013 #131
Is that sarcasm? Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #133
I've noticed it, too, and it's the kind that can't be atrributed to typos Warpy Oct 2013 #103
'spel so good'.....Love it. Paper Roses Oct 2013 #104
First time for me, I voted to hide a post. It was unanimous. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #105
Smartphones jberryhill Oct 2013 #106
Even on a keyboard... malokvale77 Oct 2013 #113
So iffin we cant spel to good you ar sayen we is trols and doc03 Oct 2013 #108
the worse trolls are the ones that came here... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #109
Are you suggesting we have been invaded by tiredtoo Oct 2013 #115
You betcha! (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #123
BUT WUT BOUT MAH LOLZCAT SPELLIN? IZ I TROLL NAO, 2? freshwest Oct 2013 #120
You're too much of a softy to ever be called a troll!! DonRedwood Oct 2013 #141
And you were caught on video! freshwest Oct 2013 #142
Unadulterated BULLSHIT. LWolf Oct 2013 #132
Obviously I wasn't talking about you then DonRedwood Oct 2013 #138
I don't fall into any of those categories. LWolf Oct 2013 #139
New and Concerned. grantcart Oct 2013 #137
Populism tactic. Look like one of 'the people' misspellings & all-get in the "anti-obamacare" theme Sunlei Oct 2013 #140
Careful Don.... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #147
I've been a member here since 2002, and yet, mrsadm Oct 2013 #149
Wat R yuo tying to say hear? Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #150
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. Well Don, it does not help that some of us are giving up
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:25 PM
Oct 2013

on the site for the most part.

So you will hear more from the 100 and 200 club.

Enjoy.

I just wanted to kick this observation of yours. It's a good one.

Now back to my fiction.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
6. I've taken breaks before as well
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:29 PM
Oct 2013

I hope you don 't go. Your postings have always been interesting and your voice is one of the first I remember from when I joined here.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
95. They are, don't help anymore
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:59 PM
Oct 2013

so outside of short answers, and atta boys... anyway, there are other things in life to a news aggregator, which is what DU is becoming. For that Huffpost does a far better job.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
116. I don't have a single person on ignore.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:30 PM
Oct 2013

I always figure, if a bigmouth like me can't face them, then we're in a world of hurt.

yourmovemonkey

(267 posts)
143. As someone with a very low post count
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 12:36 PM
Oct 2013

As someone with a very low post count, I'd like you to know how much I appreciate your posts. I've only just recently signed up, but I've been coming here to read for many years. I'm sure there are a lot of people, just like me, who don't feel the need to comment so often when there are people much more articulate and informed than ourselves in a discussion. A sincere thank you from a shy DUer. My low post count doesn't mean I'm not paying close attention to the knowledgeable folks who add to the conversation. You're one of them.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
144. Your comment IS INDEED very articulate.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 12:43 PM
Oct 2013

Much more than I am. so, don't be shy. Jump in the deep end.

edited for spelling.. see what I mean. :&gt

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
11. Sorry but education does not equal
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:33 PM
Oct 2013

Good facts. I know plenty of educated people that are blithering idiots.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
9. Well, I welcome you personally
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:31 PM
Oct 2013

And look forward to what you have to add to the conversation on DU.

Great tagline, by the way...worry is a thief.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
148. I hadn't heard that reference in a loooong time!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:04 PM
Oct 2013

I hope you have something other than green teeth!

 

UncleYoder

(233 posts)
156. That song always makes me smile.
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 2013

"He's a snake in the grass, I tell ya guys
He may look dumb but that's just a disguise
He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage"

They all started lookin' real suspicious at him and
He jumped up and said "Now just wait a minute Jim!
You know he's lyin' I been livin' here all of my life!"

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
157. From back in the days before Charlie turned on us.
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 11:09 AM
Oct 2013

It was sad. Charlie's such a great fiddler, but I guess he figured his audience didn't dig that hippie shit.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
7. This low count poster is
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:30 PM
Oct 2013

Thrilled about the ACA,considering the current alternatives.I hope it's the first step toward single payer.I can't wait for my coverage to kick in.

Also I theenk I cun spel purty gud moste timmes.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
10. A very hearty welcome!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

And, believe me, we don't agree on everything in here but our hearts are in the right place!

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
88. Some people put spaces after commas and between sentences.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:52 PM
Oct 2013

Like this, see? Since we're picking on low count posters today.
^ ^

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
8. My spelling sucks
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:31 PM
Oct 2013

I dont think spelling has any correlation to trolls.

Some trolls may spell badly but that does not mean anyone who spells poorly is a troll.

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
28. Sorry, (But reality can be explained to trolls in many ways and they still don't understand.)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

But if they are smart enough to understand the 'Check Spelling' button, maybe there is hope they aren't compete Zombies...

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
21. Or you could just use chrome
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:42 PM
Oct 2013

That checks your spelling automatically without hitting any buttons at all. But then all you highly educated people know that right?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
121. Chrome is evil. Google has gone to the dark side, haven't you heard? We'll be spying on you now:
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:57 PM
Oct 2013


NSA kitteh sees your every keystroke! He knows so much, he's got a headache!



 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
47. There is?? Good lord, I NEVER saw that before. Seriously.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:28 PM
Oct 2013

And there is is, right there.

I'm a complete maroon.

ajk2821

(89 posts)
60. Cause "Check Spelling" is a gateway to SATAN!!!!!!!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

Or is it spelled SATIN!!!!???!?!

We don't want no hippie Wicca SPELL CHECK? See the word SPELL is in the title...

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
36. Correct. And the more articulate ones are the most dangerous ones.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:09 PM
Oct 2013

And I doubt if many paid right wing trolls are bad spellers. They would need a certain competence in order to get that job.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
22. Did you see the thread in LBN?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:45 PM
Oct 2013

The Vatican had a papal medal made, and whoever made it misspelled "Jesus" as "Lesus."

My Jod, it's lust terrible.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
42. Anyone can make a typo. I'm terrible at that but I'm not a troll either.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:14 PM
Oct 2013

And educators will tell you that good spelling is an aptitude rather than a function of intelligence. There are some very intelligent people out there who can't spell worth a damn. And spell checkers are nice but not 100% effective. But I found found that DU's spell checker is better than the built in Firefox checker.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
110. But they recalled them, and now the ones that are still out there are worth a fortune.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:47 PM
Oct 2013

The Lord must love bad spellers...

 
76. "Loosers" is in my top three ARRRGHH HOW CAN THEY BE SO DUMB spelling quirks.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

The others are "Ghandi" (or "Gandi&quot and "Opps." Come on, how hard is it to spell "oops?"

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
122. That's the one...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:10 PM
Oct 2013

...that drives me insane. What in the H. E. Doubletoothpicks is going on? It has become pervasive across the internets and insidious in its prevalence.

I'm reminded of the campaign to replace the pronunciation of 'nuclear' with "nookuler."

TYY

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
20. I love when they switch between the bad spelling and complex discourse
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:40 PM
Oct 2013

"My wife was worried that her cuzin would stoled her truck, because her cousin is the very model of a modern major general!"

What a buffoon.

REP

(21,691 posts)
79. That one had me vacillating between tears of laughter and pain
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

BUT I managed not avoid being drownded in the deluge.

Southside

(338 posts)
24. As a newbie, I find it interesting that you can detect moles.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:50 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)

So many Tea Party members hate the Republican Party making it difficult at times to differentiate a progressive bashing from a Tea Party bashing. A post that reads "that repug boner is caving", I can't assume that person leans left anymore.

When I read a post from a new member that sounds like a freep post, I will go back and read their earlier posts, in almost every case, I will see posts that criticize republicans mixed with terms like "repugs", "retags" " repukes" etc,.

Good luck sorting them out, they often put out disinformation or contact information favorable to their cause. Hopefully, in a small way, it is flattering to have the Tea Party stalking DU.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
27. Welcome!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:54 PM
Oct 2013

I've also noticed those questionable name-calling tactics. Very rarely do many of the long term members I follow use those name callings. Though, it could just be that I have gravitated to posters who don't use those tactics.

Southside

(338 posts)
72. Thank You
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:07 PM
Oct 2013

I read that Rush sent an attack here in 2008, that is insane, but a tribute to the power of DU.

Thanks again for the welcome.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. The typical pattern is to make a few brief posts
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:57 PM
Oct 2013

that they think "sound democrat". They appear to believe that will build up their credibility. Then they'll start on lengthy posts that just so happen to follow the right-wing narrative of the day.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
44. and then they get mad and the facade crumbles
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:16 PM
Oct 2013

they usually self-sabotage themselves because they just can't keep that boiling hate tamped down inside for too long.

Though, I think there are a couple of long-time DUers that might also be moles. They never go far enough to get in trouble but they are not particularly supportive of any given democrats.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
52. I'm pretty sure I know which two you mean. Been noticing lack of support for anything Democratic for
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:33 PM
Oct 2013

years with them.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
119. That works the other way too
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:43 PM
Oct 2013

One of DU's most memorable, popular and long lasting trolls had "Fuck Nader" as his battle cry and regularly posted "X percent of Liberal Democrats Love Obama" OP's.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=127001

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
26. I luv the ACA.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013

It's saving the life of the mother of my grandson in WV. Indigent care in WV was terrible before Extended Medicaid and now, she's been able to get care for her brittle Diabetes and circulation in her legs.

A big problem I had a couple of years ago. Some grammar Nazis got all over a DU'er that had poor grammar and spelling and who I know for a fact had English as her second language. Not cool. Belittling and mocking someone as being uneducated and ignorant has no place in our forum and is a form of bullying, especially when the person was indeed educated and knowledgeable and struggling to learn the language.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
46. Rozlee
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:26 PM
Oct 2013

Rozlee

I think one of them, was me - I do have what you can call a bad grammar - even as I suspect it is starting to improve... But yeah - it was not to funny being named out all the time for the grammar - even as I suspect I write better english than they do with my native language anytime of the day...

Diclotican

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
74. steve2470
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:08 PM
Oct 2013

steve2470

Thank you - I try to keep on track most of the time

And yeah, I suspect I'm better in english than many here is in norsk, or norwigian But I have discovered many who have ancestry from Scandinavia at least - and quite a few one who have Norwegian ancestry way back

Diclotican

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
107. One generation back here...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:34 PM
Oct 2013

on my father's side.

You were one of the first DUers I responded to. I think it had to do with the Norwegian justice system. I always enjoy your posts.

Uff da! My grandmother's answer to almost everything.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
111. malokvale77
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 06:08 PM
Oct 2013

malokvale77

Cool then you are "almost" Norwegian then And I think we have been talking to each other before - when it come to our justice system - I think it might have been around the time Breivik was in court for his crimes, after 22 july 2011..
I try to stay civilized even if my opponent are using a faul language - I'm not to well into the more colorfully language in the english language, so I keep it civilized - so at least I have my corner covered

Yeah - Uff da is a way to express everything - from a mild confusing to the opposite - and many americans who have ancestry back to Norway - have told that they do remember their older family members often express it that way when something was going bad... It is kind of a classic Norwegian expression - and most people will use it one way or another I guess..

Diclotican

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
114. Yes, it was about Breivik.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:18 PM
Oct 2013

Many here were upset that Norway would not give him the death sentence.

Uff da, so barbaric.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
117. malokvale77
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:02 PM
Oct 2013

malokvale77

I do remember the uproar - when Breivik got a life sentence - of 21 year - plus "protective custody" for as long as it would be seen needed to keep him out of circulation - and from what is known he would be there in his prison cell for a long time - mostly because he have never shown any form of remorse - or at least to say that he might had been in the wrong.. He have stated, rather publicity that if he was given his freedom again - he would try to go after the government - or organizations like AUF again - to kill even more if he had the possibility to do it..

But, it is Norwegian LAW who gave him that sentence - and in our constitution it is stated rather clearly that no law can be given after the fact - and that a murderer can be sentenced to a stricter law than the strictest law who was at the books when the crime happened.. And at the time mr Breivik killed so many and kind of turned us all upside down here in Norway - the strictest punishment you could be given was 21 year plus be kept in protective custody - for as long as deemed necessary - of course a court would have to decide every 5 year - if persons like Breivik is sane enough to possible given a new Chance in life.. Even though I doubt Breivik will be given his freedom the next 30 year.. Mostly because no Justice Minister in Norway, will pardon this guy.. It would be a kind of pardon that would ruin chances for the Prime minister to ever have any governance in Norway for life - and I guess mr Breivik will be kept under lock and key at least to his 70th birthday.

I think Norway have a decent law system - who works in Norway - we have not had death penalty in Norway since 1848 - when the last one was hanged in Oslo, he had been stealing horses and doing many other rather horrible crimes in a few years - and after that - everyone who was punished with "death penalty" was instead given life without parole in some of the fortresses in Norway - where they had to work for the best of the community for the rest of their natural life.. But as the century progressed - also the justice system progresses - and by the late 1860s some of the first modern prisoners was build - and the criminals kept there.. Most of them is today closed down and demolished - but it exist a few ones, who still is in use - albeit modernized to a better standard than the 1870s...

The last time death penalty was used in Norway - was after World War two - when 25 of the worst criminals, who had been supporters of Germany when they was in this country - got the death penalty - as part of the court proses after the war - it was officially over 40 who got the death penalty - but most of them was given pardon from the death penalty - and in most cases was given pardon even from prison by 1960.. Most of them wa in fact given freedom in the late 1950s - but was not given "all the rights of a citizen" for another decade.. Aka the right to vote in elections and so one.. And even the use of death penalty in Norway - bu 1945-46 when the proses against war criminals, and supporters of the occupying Germany - the use of Death Penalty was not that popular - and it is maybe one of the reasons most of them who formally was given the death penalty in the end was not killed - even if they definitely could have been excecuted...

And most of them who ended up death after the cort process was shot by rifles - either at the fortress in Oslo or in Trondheim a few ones was also executed in Bergen - but for the most part, it was in Oslo and Trondheim the 25 was executed after the war... And they was given that sentence by the treason laws in our law system - and the military law who until 1975 formally could give death penalty to enemies of the State.. Today no one can be executed in Norway - at least not legal - as we do not have any death penalty - that be in the civilian law system - or the military system.. In fact all criminal charges over fines is given to the civilian court to be deiced there - as the military system is not sovereign from the civilian court system in Norway..

Diclotican

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
118. That's pretty much the way my grandmother told it.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:32 PM
Oct 2013

By the way she was from Trondheim. My grandfather was a fisherman from one of the Kvale Islands off the coast (hence my name).

mecherosegarden

(745 posts)
29. My spelling is horrible!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

I struggled with my spelling during my graduate school. I took several classes trying to learn proper writing skills. I can write perfectly in Spanish ( my native language) but I really do poorly in English. And in top of that, I tend to switch letters and numbers , although I am not dyslexic. I don't post very often to avoid offending anyone. And I am not a troll... actually , I am a Clinical Psychologist looking for a post doctoral job in California

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
45. I have to use spell check religiously
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:19 PM
Oct 2013

A good soul is a good soul, spelling be damned!

I also end up going back and fixing a ton of errors after I post.

But it is the tone of the message that is the only true giveaway.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
61. So do I. I don't post until I have run the spell check.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

I am a retired copy editor and spell check is my dear friend.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
136. I was a copy editor right out of college!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:05 AM
Oct 2013

I think it is why I spot patterns quickly in people's writings. Hence me noticing a couple of different profiles that were posting very similarly constructed tales of woe.

 
31. oh pls
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

i got a chain lettar today that told me about eval stuf goin on with this bamacare and stuff

and how he named it aftar alabama to make it seem gud for every1

how can u deny that its not a communion plot to overthaw america?



Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
32. Good call, DonRedwood, but don't you know
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:04 PM
Oct 2013

"sheep sheerer's" is properly spelled "sheap sheerer's"? Sheash...

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
35. ... sadly, some of them offset the 'WOW! It's better than wonderbread!' infomercial posts ...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:08 PM
Oct 2013

.... which are so comprehensive and slickly worded but still devoid of detail that they could have been written by an OFA staffer.

Don't kid yourself ... trolls exists on both sides of any issue.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
41. Yeah, I can see some of it too
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:13 PM
Oct 2013

Barely been a member here for a week or two and can see some posts that appear strangely similar to some of the trollings on Raw Story's comment sections. Not a lot, but they do jump out rather brightly.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
125. Let me welcome you to DU!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:16 PM
Oct 2013

It's usually just a couple but lately we seem to be a little troll heavy. But it is still my favorite place on the web.

Hope you enjoy your visits!

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,729 posts)
56. Another idea here...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

I switched from computer to a pad, it seems like my spelling skills went down. Although the pad auto-corrects sometime it's not what I intended. Plus I seem to hit the wrong place on the letters, can't call them buttons.

But I get your point. Too true.

Love the ACA. I'm covered by the VA but ACA is going to be for my wife, I'll sleep better knowing she's covered.

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
57. I've been here for a long time
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:42 PM
Oct 2013

I just never comment. As you see this is only post #100, but I've been a daily reader since 2004 and a member since 2008.

I'm not a troll, but if your a yooper I wood be. (I live below the bridge, Mackinac that is)

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
129. Well, congrats on breaking 100!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:31 PM
Oct 2013

it has to be more of a math problem...low count + negative attitude + constant digs at Democrats + bad spelling.

None of them would be enough on their own. It's the combinations of those that I'm talking about.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
58. I'm a low count poster
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:46 PM
Oct 2013

but I can give personal examples of young Republican friends of mine who have signed up for Obamacare. I think they still hate Pres Obama, but they are happy with the insurance.

murielm99

(30,742 posts)
59. "This place is about sourcing facts."
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:49 PM
Oct 2013

That is an excellent way to put it, Don. That is why I come here. And if I can't find the facts, someone at DU always seems to know how to help. Of course I know Google and Snopes are my friends.

We get a troll infestation from time to time. We seem to ride it out.

I guess if they can't spell their protest signs, they can't spell their trollish posts, either.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
62. And then there's autocorrect.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:52 PM
Oct 2013

I'm an excellent speller, but I'm amazed at what sometimes shows up in my posts when I'm using the iPad.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
63. I love it here...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:54 PM
Oct 2013

I should have come sooner... Hugs to my friend, (she Knows who she is)..for inviting me!

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
97. Awwww.....how the fuck do i unwatch this????
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:02 PM
Oct 2013

As a disillusioned catholic i don't know whether to laugh or cry....

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
78. My spelling is quite good, I think
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

The only "caveat" to that is that I use Oxford/Commonwealth spellings, like the rest of the Anglosphere.

Why?

Because I LIKE them. Noah Webster wasn't necessarily correct! If he had been, why don't we spell "neighbour" as "nabor" (apologies to Jim; I still like "Gomer Pyle USMC&quot ? I drove my teachers in high school nuts with it.

The main problem I see here on DU is the unstated expectation that one must support everything President Obama and all past Democrats have done.

That is not going to happen, not from me.

I believe Mr. Obama was completely wrong in not pushing for single-payer, caving on the public option, re-authorising the Patriot Act and all this NSA BS.

I believe Bill Clinton was completely wrong in rolling over and playing dead on health care in 1994, and even worse for jumping on Newt Gingrich's "the era of big government is over!" bandwagon.

That's it, for anyone who cares.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
80. dont be talcing about my langwage.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:18 PM
Oct 2013

we aer all jus humane and need to give each other the bennifitt of the dowt.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
86. Yuppie Third Way corporatist trolls who can pay for private insurance are calling
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:46 PM
Oct 2013

all the folks who desperately need insurance and are complaining about spending 50 hrs trying to navigate the healthcare.gov website, and $50 dollars in cell phone phone charges calling healthcare.gov, RW trolls. It doesn't matter how many posts you have, or if you can't spell, or are a spelling bee champion.

I've just about been called a RW troll for complaining about Experian and the other RW corporations who deliberately put bugs in the system.

Who knew? Go figure. What a shock.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
98. The fires are stoked. Let the witch hunt begin!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:10 PM
Oct 2013

I'm glad you're around to make sure that new members of DU are made aware that their comments and beliefs are suspect until you give them the green light.

Now, do you accuse me of being a troll because I don't have as many posts as you, or do I get to call you a troll for signing up to the site later than me?

Either way, this OP is horrible. There will be good Democrats who are happy with ACA and good Democrats who believe it is flawed legislation that needs to be fixed. Bullying them into submission doesn't help anyone.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
99. Hey! I only have 200-something posts and I'm not a troll!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:12 PM
Oct 2013

It's because of the ACA that I will have health insurance come January 1!

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
103. I've noticed it, too, and it's the kind that can't be atrributed to typos
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:22 PM
Oct 2013

After all, I'm an expert in Typoese and have been since I flunked typing in junior high school. However, these are glaring illiteracies.

I'm sure some of them are recovering Republicans, still used to getting their information through their ears but listening to Rachel Maddow instead of that damfool Beck. Even Maddow can't improve the spelling of folks who don't read, though.

Some of them are the troll brigade, as you very rightly suspect. Don't worry, they won't last long. People who aren't smart enough to write clearly aren't smart enough to fool people who can for very long.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
105. First time for me, I voted to hide a post. It was unanimous.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oct 2013

When I read the post, my stomach hurt, like someone kicked me. I didn't look up the poster, too many good posts to read on DU to waste my time.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
106. Smartphones
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:29 PM
Oct 2013

Poor spelling used to be more indicative of something about the poster before the advent of smartphones.

Typing with your thumbs on a small screen is not conducive to good form.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
113. Even on a keyboard...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 07:08 PM
Oct 2013

It is difficult when you have RA. It seems that is also an offense on DU.

There seems to be a lot of "you made a mistake so you are a troll" going on here.

My brother, who is visually impaired, won't post here, because of the call out on silly typos. He is far from stupid. His whole life has been full of ridicule just because he can't see things as others do.

When did democrats lose empathy?

PS: I took a long time to type this in hopes my gnarled fingers wouldn't make a mistake.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
108. So iffin we cant spel to good you ar sayen we is trols and
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:39 PM
Oct 2013

sutch. I thinks u is paintin wif a brood brush. Ar u sayin we cant be good DU membrs
unlessen we spel good.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
109. the worse trolls are the ones that came here...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:46 PM
Oct 2013

in the 2008 timeframe during Rush's Operation Chaos (during the primaries). They know how to skate that very thin line of being extremely irritating, but not enough to get TS'ed. Not saying all that came here then were part of it, but when I start smelling troll I see a lot of people who came here then.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
120. BUT WUT BOUT MAH LOLZCAT SPELLIN? IZ I TROLL NAO, 2?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:44 PM
Oct 2013

But seriously, yes, I've seen what you've seen. Including one with 200 posts who had Recs like a Democrat that said the ACA was trying to force a 'black' law on white people. I should have asked for the poster to add a smilie, maybe.

I reasoned he may have been clumsily trying to suggest that's why there is so much RW resistance to the ACA, they won't be told to do something for their own good, from THAT MAN in the White House. To which I'd say, give us more 'black' laws!

Plus another one's first post saying he was a Republican, liberals are intolerant of free speech and he wanted to debate the facts and was giving us a chance. With some wrong facts added, too.

I didn't respond to either, since it was so late at night it was early into the next day. Really, I haven't had the time for battling them, as I'm looking for facts and the very latest decisions.

This waiting game is hell. October 17th and the month of November are coming fast. And many Americans are scrambling.

But yes, they are coming out of the woodwork. I wonder if any will reply on this thread, LOL.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
141. You're too much of a softy to ever be called a troll!!
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:41 AM
Oct 2013

Though, I have a little troll cat here who thinks walking on my head at 5 a.m. on a Saturday is a super fun game!!!

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
132. Unadulterated BULLSHIT.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:17 PM
Oct 2013

My spelling and grammar are just fine, thanks, and I have a bit more than a couple of hundred posts or a couple of years in. My personal experiences are valid. My point of view is valid.

If I want to criticize the ACA, which is a health INSURANCE mandate, not health CARE, or criticize Obama, neither of those things are anti-democratic. They also are not anti-Democratic.

Call me a fool. DU3 allows most personal attacks, so go right ahead. I'll call you disingenuous, and move on to something more productive.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
138. Obviously I wasn't talking about you then
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:23 AM
Oct 2013

And I have no problem calling out Democrats or my party when they are off-base.

I'm just talking about this sudden rash of new people who have similar stories, and some similar spelling errors. And, when you look at their other comments, they are all very anti everything Democrats pretty much agree on.

Trolls are trolls. The rest of us are just opinionated. But there is certainly a difference.

So, sorry to offend if you mistook what I said--but my post was about new members and low posters who have nothing positive to contribute in any of the conversations they have entered. I doubt you fall into any of those categories.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
139. I don't fall into any of those categories.
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

I never HAVE related, though, to the concern some show over possible "trolls." I'm sure every internet site has a few, but why feed them?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
140. Populism tactic. Look like one of 'the people' misspellings & all-get in the "anti-obamacare" theme
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:41 AM
Oct 2013

To post on message boards and comment in news articles is a job in a lot of paid media businesses. Populism tactic is part of propaganda. RW especially their Corp. buddies- spend billions on propaganda because it works.

or maybe an ignorant troll who gets a rise out of the feed & trolls for free to much time on their hands. They should grab one of those paid media troll JOBS

mrsadm

(1,198 posts)
149. I've been a member here since 2002, and yet,
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:24 PM
Oct 2013

I've had only about 400 posts. More of a reader than a talker.

Remember, don't feed the trolls!

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