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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:00 PM Oct 2013

Could you pay 5 percent or more of your income right now for single payer?

Single payer is coming, and it's a better and more civilized health care system.

Single Payer movement in the era of Obamacare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023715400#post10

Still, you have to pay, it's mandated and shared cost applies.

For example, financing plans have suggested an additional payroll tax of about 5 percent, and an additional 5 percent and 10 percent tax for the top 5 percent and 1 percent, respectively. The "or more" in the OP title was in the event anyone falls in the top 5 percent.

The annual tax would look something like this:

$25,000 - $1,250
$50,000 - $2,500
$75,000 - $3,750
$100,000 - $5,000
$150,000 - $7,500
$200,000 - $20,000
$250,000 - $25,000
$350,000 - $52,500
$500,000 - $75,000
$1,000,000 - $150,000

There would also be a small financial transaction tax and a mandated 7 percent payroll tax on all employers.








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Could you pay 5 percent or more of your income right now for single payer? (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2013 OP
Assuming it should be pre-Income Tax, sure...I'd love it.... Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #1
5% flat is absurd. It should have a marginal system where upper classes pay a higher percent NoOneMan Oct 2013 #2
It's not flat. There is a higher rate ProSense Oct 2013 #9
What medical expenses would I have after that? gollygee Oct 2013 #3
The question should be "would" not "could" taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #4
5% would be less than I pay right now for my family's healthcare Victor_c3 Oct 2013 #5
The 1% can get this one. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #6
Probably equates to overall UK NHS rates dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #7
Instead of all the 5% placed upon income how about fitman Oct 2013 #8
Already paying more than that. For me it would be a savings. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #10
5%, I'm paying 30% now for Medicare, Medigap, and Part D. Downwinder Oct 2013 #11
No because Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #12
I'm poor as a church mouse these days, but I'd move heaven and earth to kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #13
It's definitely a great deal. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #14
In addition to current rates? Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #15

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
1. Assuming it should be pre-Income Tax, sure...I'd love it....
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:04 PM
Oct 2013

Cheapest form of healthcare: cover everybody for everything. Everybody pays who can, through a payroll tax like this.

ps...even if it isn't "pre-tax" it's a steal. They'd probably cap it against higher incomes, but if they generate enough revenue to finance the program, I could live with that.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. It's not flat. There is a higher rate
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:22 PM
Oct 2013

10 percent and 15 percent for the the top 5 percent and 1 percent.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
3. What medical expenses would I have after that?
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:07 PM
Oct 2013

If it covered prescriptions and doctors' visits, then yeah easily because I'd be paying it to the tax instead of for the prescriptions and doctors' visits.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. 5% would be less than I pay right now for my family's healthcare
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:13 PM
Oct 2013

(and I bring home roughly $90-$95k a year)

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. Probably equates to overall UK NHS rates
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:18 PM
Oct 2013

other than the additional amounts for the top 5 percent and 1 percent. That issue would be complicated here by no such tax being payable on either dividends or interest i.e unearned income.

 

fitman

(482 posts)
8. Instead of all the 5% placed upon income how about
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:19 PM
Oct 2013

3% income and 1% sales tax?? (food and clothing exempt) and 1% on import tarriffs on countries like China who screw us?

$100-150k is a boat load of money in my state (ohio) but not much in some states and large cities..just as a $150k house in my state is a $500-600k house in CA.

The 7% tax on employers?? They are going to not hire and make people do 2-3 jobs and work them like a dog. My wife has a small business an additional 7% would be hard to handle..not all businisses are rolling in money as much as some believe ..many are just scraping by..we have not had a real vacation in 4 years and she is driving around in a 2002 car with high mileage ..that is no BS

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
12. No because
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:55 PM
Oct 2013

I don't even work right now; I'm on a fixed income from my school. Though I would definitely love to see the country go forward from Obamacare to single-payer.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
13. I'm poor as a church mouse these days, but I'd move heaven and earth to
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:19 PM
Oct 2013

pay that little for SINGLE PAYER.

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