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pscot

(21,024 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:36 PM Oct 2013

Is the House in play now?

Sam Wang thinks it might be:

All of the arguments on this subject can and should be quantified. It’s just like last year’s Presidential race: is any of this punditry data-based? Today I start to outline a true prediction. I give a “toy model,” i.e. step 1 toward something more realistic. The toy model relies on a prediction of popular vote only. At the end, I start to add a little bit of complication. I invite you to add more complication in comments.

Provisionally, it looks like the following: In a little over a week, the shutdown has increased the probability of a Democratic House takeover in 2014 from 13% to as high as 50%.



The first number (13%) is is exactly as expected if House trends were following expectations from analysts’ conventional wisdom and political science research. But the shutdown, combined with the fluidity of gerrymandered districts, has added a highly unexpected twist. The 50% figure could swing back toward the Republicans, or it could go further toward the Democrats. For certain, it gives a measure of an unusually fast change in the national mood. Let’s dive in.
http://election.princeton.edu/

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Is the House in play now? (Original Post) pscot Oct 2013 OP
Yes nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #1
I expect many more teabag shenanigans in the coming year. MoonRiver Oct 2013 #7
Not according to Nate Silver. Damn I want these assholes wiped out! trublu992 Oct 2013 #2
If the Democrats win the vote by 10-plus points, a the polls suggest, it is... Drunken Irishman Oct 2013 #6
Nate Silver has been smoking crack for the last few months... Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #14
+140? sharp_stick Oct 2013 #17
Trust me... Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #20
only because they had to give Dick Armey $7 billion pscot Oct 2013 #21
I Think It Is, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2013 #3
If the Democratic party keeps moving to the left, they will win. If they move LiberalArkie Oct 2013 #4
Nope. LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #5
Take look at the link pscot Oct 2013 #9
Gerrymandered districts can still be overcome - and that's the anger of the voters.. Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #15
Nate Silver says probably not, but it is too early to tell. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #8
You got to believe pscot Oct 2013 #16
It's +12 months from now. maxsolomon Oct 2013 #10
^^THIS^^ Dawgs Oct 2013 #18
it's way, way too early to tell. cali Oct 2013 #11
I certainly hope so.... Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #12
Nate Silver is the only one saying anything differently. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #13
That's a good bet. Dawgs Oct 2013 #19

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. I expect many more teabag shenanigans in the coming year.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:45 PM
Oct 2013

Those fools just do not learn from their mistakes, probably because they never admit to making mistakes. So, yeah, I think the House is very much in play.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. If the Democrats win the vote by 10-plus points, a the polls suggest, it is...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:44 PM
Oct 2013

Silver is wrong in that regard. Democrats won by a margin of 1.4 points in 2012 and still managed to win 8 seats. If their margin approaches double digits, they'll swamp the Republicans ... even in Gerrymandered seats.

 

Buddha_of_Wisdom

(373 posts)
14. Nate Silver has been smoking crack for the last few months...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

He is not measuring correctly.. He forgot a few numbers....

I predict a +140 swing on the Democratic side of the House for '14. Tea Party/FreedomWorks will be bankrupt and out of business. In fact, there's already financial issues for these organizations (now borrowing money to pay the bills)

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
3. I Think It Is, Sir
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:39 PM
Oct 2013

And there is plenty more time for these people to do even more destructive and lunatic things before people go to the polls....

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
4. If the Democratic party keeps moving to the left, they will win. If they move
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:41 PM
Oct 2013

to right like they have been, voters will see no difference and loose.

I would rather have a Democratic candidate defeated for a Liberal viewpoint than trying to a Conservative.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
9. Take look at the link
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:48 PM
Oct 2013

Wang understands the edge gerrymandered district give the GOP. He's still guardedly optimistic.

 

Buddha_of_Wisdom

(373 posts)
15. Gerrymandered districts can still be overcome - and that's the anger of the voters..
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:52 PM
Oct 2013

And that's what will explode the gerrymandering efforts....

And then it will be corrected in time for the 2020 census.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
12. I certainly hope so....
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

but I live in a Dem district in a blue state, so I can't affect the outcome much.

I will vote, though. You can bet on that.

 
13. Nate Silver is the only one saying anything differently.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:50 PM
Oct 2013

I'll stick with the general consensus, rather than the outlier.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
19. That's a good bet.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 02:39 PM
Oct 2013

Too many think Silver is a genius for predicting elections. The fact is that anyone can do the same thing by averaging the final polls. It's really not that hard.

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