Amazing comment posted to Will Pitt's piece on Truthout . . .

[markpkessinger]

. . . And Will's article is a must-read!

[Luminous Animal]

1. Well, we haven't passed "healthcare". We've passed access to insurance.

[markpkessinger]

2. Yes, I realize that . . .

. . . but that isn't really the point of my post, nor of the comment to Will's article.

[Luminous Animal]

4. Both you and the comment misrepresent what we've passed.

That was my point. We've never passed "healthcare". We've passed a scheme to to funnel private and government money into private enterprise.

So, "You'll never pass healthcare" is correct.

[markpkessinger]

10. I posted a comment I saw on an article that was making a point about the futility of negotiating...

... with the GOP, and the absurdity of the GOP's current complaints that the President isn't willing to negotiate. That comment certainly could have been stated more accurately, but I didn't misrepresent anything. And irrespective of the inaccuracy of the comment itself, its larger point stands. Sorry you failed to grasp that.

[fadedrose]

7. The point?

I thought it was to show that they are complaining about Obama not wanting to negotiate when it is plain they have had their minds made up from the get-go and it will stay that way no doubt forever.

He sees no value in negotiating and playing games with them.

[markpkessinger]

8. Exactly n/t

[datasuspect]

20. we've passed compulsory purchase of insurance under penalty of law.

[Nine]

23. Nope.

It's buy minimal insurance if you have the financial means or pay an alternative tax. Not buy insurance no matter your financial means or go to jail. This argument has already been settled.

[datasuspect]

24. tax law is still law

and the increased tax amount is a penalty enforceable under the tax code. code is another word for law.

[Nine]

25. No one is being compelled to do anything.

And "under penalty of law" certainly makes it sound like there are criminal penalties.

If it makes you feel better, instead of thinking of the alternative payment as a "tax penalty" for not buying insurance when you can afford it, think of NOT having to pay the alternative payment as a tax credit for doing something to offset the government's cost of healthcare.

But as I said, this has already been settled, so your talking point is out of date.

[datasuspect]

26. more like not buying insurance

because you CAN'T afford it.

or buying insurance with a 6000 deductible that makes it practically unusable.

[progressoid]

28. Yup. n/t

[cui bono]

3. Someone posted this same list a day or two ago as an OP.

I think it's going around on FB.

Same incorrect year for SCOTUS decision on ACA. Should be 2012.

[markpkessinger]

18. missed that n/t

[silverweb]

5. Terrific.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I love infographics, but not when they're inaccurate.

I hope somebody can re-do this in a more accurate version!

[fadedrose]

6. I knew that Pitt was a good writer

but foolishly thought he was "our" William Pitt and wrote in DU for his own fun and amusement for our benefit, appreciation and edification because he is so well-informed...

Thanks for posting the link. I thought he was too good to be here.

[markpkessinger]

9. Um. . . they ARE one in the same . . .

. . . not sure what you're saying here.

[fadedrose]

12. Not sure either

Is he the same? Damned if I know....

[markpkessinger]

13. Yes, he is n/t

[jmowreader]

14. They're the same person

[WilliamPitt]

30. We come in six-packs.

[awoke_in_2003]

33. God help us all...

[Skittles]

31. William Rivers Pitt is a longtime DUer, and longtime writer outside of DU

yes INDEED

[eridani]

11. "Senator Ted Cruz, who with each passing day appears more and more to be...

... the likely product of a test-tube combination between a dented egg from Phyllis Schlafly and the weakest sperm Joe McCarthy ever produced, hates the very idea of socialized medicine."

[Historic NY]

15. Can we send some bears to the Capitol?

[LaydeeBug]

16. Dupe. But a happy, happy dupe...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023791075

[markpkessinger]

17. Didn't see the earlier posting n/t

[JSK]

19. That "amazing comment" has been all over Facebook eom

[markpkessinger]

29. Maybe so -- I didn't see it there, however . . .

. . . and the point it makes is valid nonetheless.

[cali]

21. that was originally posted to another story. I saw it several days ago.

[B Calm]

22. LOL, great reply!

[Berlum]

27. k and r

nt

[IADEMO2004]

32. 1st time I've seen the comment and glad you put it up.

and I didn't see Will's piece either so good on you again.

[ThomThom]

34. I can't believe they keep saying health care insurance

will bring this country down
people are beginning to see what crap these fools keep pushing