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villager

(26,001 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:36 PM Oct 2013

Moronic Hunters Shoot and Kill Rare Albino Moose

My, don't they look proud. But after shooting this rare albino moose near Belle Cote in Nova Scotia last week — and posting the pics to social media — the trio has sparked considerable outrage, particularly among the region's Mi'kmaq indigenous community.

This moose was known to the local Mi'kmaq people for years, but they refrained from killing it because they consider all white animals to be sacred — what they call a "spirit animal." Even hunters, aside from these clowns, don't shoot albino animals for fear that it'll bring bad luck — and despite the fact that it's not illegal. These guys breached a kind of unwritten code of conduct that has also upset many in the hunting community.



Mi'kmaq hunter Danny Paul spoke to the CBC about the incident:

We know the significance and we've been teaching that to the non-native population for almost 500 years — about the importance that this and other white animals played in our lives. We are not to harm them in any way, shape, or form because they could be one of our ancestors coming to remind us of something significant that's going to happen within our communities. It was so disrespectful having seen it put on the social media, and it's been an outcry and our people are outraged.

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Moronic Hunters Shoot and Kill Rare Albino Moose (Original Post) villager Oct 2013 OP
My question is WhyTF there is no protection in place..FFS.. pipoman Oct 2013 #1
We generally don't "protect" animals with birth defects jberryhill Oct 2013 #6
Yeah, there isn't a glut of white moose pipoman Oct 2013 #8
Piebald and black variations of white-tailed deer are not protected in Texas. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #9
Piebald is much more comon than an albino, isn't it? pipoman Oct 2013 #10
Yeah, I was just illustrating how there are variations within a species... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #15
It doesn't make sense to protect animals that have genetic weaknesses in the wild. Brickbat Oct 2013 #18
How far out do you want to extend that theory? flvegan Oct 2013 #19
That's a silly direction jberryhill Oct 2013 #25
Maybe not, if not, we can't complain with credibility when this happens.. pipoman Oct 2013 #20
I'm not complaining. Brickbat Oct 2013 #21
They are giving the hide up. Paulie Oct 2013 #2
It would be hard to mount the head without having the hide.. pipoman Oct 2013 #11
Most hides I've seen are sans head and limbs Paulie Oct 2013 #16
But a tanned skin includes the cowl pipoman Oct 2013 #22
Thanks. Paulie Oct 2013 #23
That's bad juju alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #3
I hope it gets so bad for those asses they have to move Gman Oct 2013 #4
I'm eating a hamburger right now, so my outrage would be hypocritical. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #5
Only a sick psycho could kill such a rare majestic animal. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #7
It smells to me that they targeted the animal.. pipoman Oct 2013 #12
Yep. For various reasons I've passed up many deer when hunting them. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #17
Daily Mail says the hunters have apologized and will give the carcass to the Mi'kmaq. Brickbat Oct 2013 #13
Yeah, and should prolly stay off the res..forever.. pipoman Oct 2013 #24
You SO had me at "moronic hunters" flvegan Oct 2013 #14
Moronic hunters is redundant Beaverhausen Oct 2013 #26
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. We generally don't "protect" animals with birth defects
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:59 PM
Oct 2013

Look into the "white tiger" scam sometime.

Albinism is a congenital defect which in many animals is crosslinked to other maladaptive characteristics. It is not some spiritual blessing imbuing the animal with magic powers.

While shooting this moose was unnecessary, the desirability of albinism for animals used in entertainment, particularly tigers, has led to exceptionally cruel breeding programs to produce mutants of this variety.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. Yeah, there isn't a glut of white moose
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:17 PM
Oct 2013

or most any other albino game animals I am aware of. The white tigers are bred in captivity.

Bottom line is we should either protect them, and I doubt there would be any meaningful opposition to doing that, or we don't complain when it happens..

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
9. Piebald and black variations of white-tailed deer are not protected in Texas.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:17 PM
Oct 2013

I would have no objection to protecting unusual color patterns on game animals because of their religious significance, but the killing of said animals via regulated hunting will not affect the species' herd health.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
10. Piebald is much more comon than an albino, isn't it?
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:20 PM
Oct 2013

It seems I've seen a lot of piebalds in hunting mags..

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
15. Yeah, I was just illustrating how there are variations within a species...
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:41 PM
Oct 2013

The black white-tail is known to be a strain occurring exclusively in SW Travis County (Austin) in Texas. Very uncommom, but for hunting purposes it is like any other of its brethren white tails. But the next time I see a tiger-striped feral hog...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
25. That's a silly direction
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:25 PM
Oct 2013

Before we march in with Hitler and the eugenicists here, and taking general objections to hunting of any kind into account...

If hunting is permitted at all, then it makes perfect sense to hunt the way that other animals hunt. Taking special care to avoid hunting ones which are infirm, beyond breeding age, or, in this case, having a genetic defect, does the hunted species no good.

Again, I understand and respect your general objection to hunting. But if animals are going to be taken, then it makes zero sense to take some kind of precautions to leave behind ones which have genetic abnormalities cross linked to maladaptive characteristics.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
16. Most hides I've seen are sans head and limbs
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:41 PM
Oct 2013

Or is this going to be more of those old bear skin rugs with the head attached?

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
22. But a tanned skin includes the cowl
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:05 PM
Oct 2013

the hide looks incomplete without the neck skin. I think taxidermists usually want most of the front of the animal hide for a head mount.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
5. I'm eating a hamburger right now, so my outrage would be hypocritical.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:47 PM
Oct 2013

I know there isn't a lot of superstition surrounding cows in the US, but getting worked up over knocking on wood and black cats seems a bit silly to me.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
7. Only a sick psycho could kill such a rare majestic animal.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:17 PM
Oct 2013

I hope these stupid assholes get run out of town in a wooden box.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
12. It smells to me that they targeted the animal..
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:23 PM
Oct 2013

your average moose hunter's first response to seeing the animal would be to watch it, imo

flvegan

(64,408 posts)
14. You SO had me at "moronic hunters"
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:36 PM
Oct 2013

But I have to like that some hunters have given a value (thanks, bros! :rollseyes to at least one animal. Ego is funny, even still.

Yeah, cuz pulling the trigger somehow makes you a "hunter" you dumbfuck. LOL!

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