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kentuck

(111,097 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:24 PM Oct 2013

"No Labels" looks like the beginning of a third Party?

They have been doing ads on the television set criticizing both Dems and Repubs.

All I can say is "Proceed".

When one of the major Parties is weakened by circumstances of their own making, third parties do tend to fill the vacuum.

They would probably steal most of the moderates from the present Republican Party if they choose to remain viable?

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"No Labels" looks like the beginning of a third Party? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2013 OP
It's Jeb Bush jberryhill Oct 2013 #1
"Smirk." - Teh Jebster (R - BFEE) Berlum Oct 2013 #17
Yep, pretty obvious too. grantcart Oct 2013 #38
hmmm. interesting. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #2
"No Labels" is just a repackaging of the GOP without the tarnished brand. PSPS Oct 2013 #3
Yep... kentuck Oct 2013 #4
+1 n/t Bonhomme Richard Oct 2013 #6
exactly! etherealtruth Oct 2013 #18
Founded by Republican Mark McKinnon, strategist for the GWB and McCain campaigns struggle4progress Oct 2013 #21
+100 n/t melody Oct 2013 #31
They are M-O-R (sway with the breeze) republicans/dems SoCalDem Oct 2013 #5
They are actually the product, from what my local freshman claims, nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #7
Turd Way DJ13 Oct 2013 #8
Is that what they are? Then never mind. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #19
Yup 1000words Oct 2013 #20
Completely. Ought to be Re-labled...again. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #25
Joe Lieberman is involved. They are republicans. Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #9
Oh, great. Another Rightist Party for the DEMS to bipartisan with. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #10
Are they still around? JHB Oct 2013 #11
They have been around a couple years, Joe Lieberman is involved Bjorn Against Oct 2013 #12
Intriguing, definitely worth a look. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #13
*snort* pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #22
Oh, don't be so modest, Third-Way Manny,... JHB Oct 2013 #26
They are your peeps Third-Way Manny, see post #32 /nt Dragonfli Oct 2013 #34
They claimed they were going to run a candidate in 2012. former9thward Oct 2013 #14
Actually, that was "Americans Elect", but same shit, different label JHB Oct 2013 #27
Thanks, I thought it was the same group. former9thward Oct 2013 #37
They would get all the Independents too. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #15
I am an independent and the only third party that has a chance with me is the Green Party. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #30
Another astroturf outfit. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #16
What was that the Quitter said about lipstick on a pig? lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #23
Third parties don't do well in the US system Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #24
BFEE rides again grasswire Oct 2013 #28
I agree. Lint Head Oct 2013 #29
No labels is just where classic Republicans hang out, they include DLC moderate Republicans Dragonfli Oct 2013 #32
No labels = no core values =whoring for the 1% n/t eridani Oct 2013 #33
they are looking for Democrats who are not afraid to take on tough issues like Entitlement reform, Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #35
Heh. Good one. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #36
just what America needs - three parties all on the right side of center Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #39
The only benefit would be that it would probably lead to a ....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #40
there have been several attempts at that over the years when unions were much stronger and Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #41
Well yeah that's the reason a PWP hasn't happened already IMO...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #42

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
3. "No Labels" is just a repackaging of the GOP without the tarnished brand.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:44 PM
Oct 2013

If you dig just a little, you run into the same talking points.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
5. They are M-O-R (sway with the breeze) republicans/dems
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oct 2013

When people say they have no opinion about "x" or they always compromise (away OUR rights)

This is the DINO-RINO Party..

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. They are actually the product, from what my local freshman claims,
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:55 PM
Oct 2013

of talks between freshman democrats (like mine) and freshman republicans, during orientation.

Given my local freshman is a blue dog, and the republicans are moderates, it could be very much the beginning of a new party. This is what happened back in the late 1850s at the Republicans were formed from moderate Democrats and radical republicans. Yes, Lincoln was considered quite radical.

I wonder if the Brown rule will apply if this becomes too obvious?

JHB

(37,160 posts)
11. Are they still around?
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:01 PM
Oct 2013

It's not a party, it's a scheme for political consultants to bilk some wealthy people who think we have a "both sides" problem.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
12. They have been around a couple years, Joe Lieberman is involved
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:04 PM
Oct 2013

They are not a political party, they are more like an American' for Prosperity type group that shills for right-wing causes. Unlike American's for Prosperity they pretend to be moderates, but we should all know that when Lieberman is involved that it is a right-wing group that merely pretends to be in the middle.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
13. Intriguing, definitely worth a look.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:10 PM
Oct 2013

Seems like my kind of peeps!

Regards,

Third-Way Manny
A Proud Member...

JHB

(37,160 posts)
26. Oh, don't be so modest, Third-Way Manny,...
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:18 AM
Oct 2013

...you were their top pick to be Bloomberg's running mate, if he'd opted to run in 2012.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
14. They claimed they were going to run a candidate in 2012.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:12 PM
Oct 2013

They said they were going to have an online 'convention'. Nothing ever happened.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
27. Actually, that was "Americans Elect", but same shit, different label
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:21 AM
Oct 2013

A lot of crossover between those two groups.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
15. They would get all the Independents too.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:27 PM
Oct 2013

Most the ReThugs I know would bag the Rethug party. They're going to be hurting if not eliminated. They'd only consist of Tea baggers.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
30. I am an independent and the only third party that has a chance with me is the Green Party.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:42 AM
Oct 2013

Or maybe the socialist party.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
24. Third parties don't do well in the US system
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:12 AM
Oct 2013

if the GOP implodes then a nascent centre-right party may be poised to succeed it, as the Republican Party goes the way of the Whigs (although the GOP may continue to survive in the South, for a while). The Republicans are already largely a regional party though, so that would only drive sectional splits further and perhaps lead to a new secessionist movement.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
28. BFEE rides again
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:31 AM
Oct 2013

Co founder is Mark McKinnon, Bush fixer. He was flapping his gums on MSNBC today. Gave me the heebie jeebies.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
32. No labels is just where classic Republicans hang out, they include DLC moderate Republicans
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 03:00 AM
Oct 2013

That are in modern times Registered as Democrats and are called "third way" or "new democrats" and also what's left of Moderate Republicans that are still anachronistically found in the GOP (but ignored by their party).

Reaganites mostly from both aisles.


If they do start a third party, maybe the supply-siders would leave our party to join them and give it back to the classic Democrats.

Then we'd have have a Republican Party (under a new "no-name&quot , A Democratic Party, and a John Birch Party (which would simply keep the Republican name)

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
35. they are looking for Democrats who are not afraid to take on tough issues like Entitlement reform,
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 04:13 AM
Oct 2013

who believe in a strong defense and are frustrated with President Obama for always pandering to the party's radical far left rather than striving for bipartisan compromise.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
39. just what America needs - three parties all on the right side of center
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 02:48 AM
Oct 2013

or actually one center-right party - another slightly more to the right - and a John Birch Society, right-wing crackpot party. Just how would this party be any different than the mainstream leadership of the Democratic Party?

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
40. The only benefit would be that it would probably lead to a .......
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 11:12 AM
Oct 2013

Progressive Worker's Party on the left in relatively short order.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
41. there have been several attempts at that over the years when unions were much stronger and
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 03:59 PM
Oct 2013

class consciousness was much more powerful and socialist ideals were held much more commonly by common people than today. As desirable as it would be - I cannot see that happening at least for the foreseeable future. However, sometimes movements spring up very quickly and unexpectedly - I would rejoice at history proving me completely wrong on this. But as long as a vote for a progressive third party means in the vast majority of cases - increasing the possibility of some right-wing crackpot winning - I can't see the development of a progressive alternative to the Democratic Party on the national level. Besides not only do most rank and file Republicans think the Democratic Party is already an extreme left-wing party - most rank and file Democrats think that the Democratic Party is already a progressive workers' party - however naïve that may be.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
42. Well yeah that's the reason a PWP hasn't happened already IMO......
Sat Oct 12, 2013, 05:50 PM
Oct 2013

the fear of a Teabagger election. But IF the Republicans split first, the Democrats (unless they take a HUGE left turn) are almost guaranteed to split within one or two election cycles afterwards. And I'd rather see a worker's party come about than some form of the Greens or another "liberal" party as that fourth.

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