nytimes: Obama and G.O.P. Fail to Agree on Debt Limit Plan

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WASHINGTON — President Obama and House Republicans failed to reach agreement on a six-week extension of the nation’s borrowing authority during a meeting Thursday at the White House, but both sides agreed to keep talking and the Republican offer was seen as a first step toward ending the budget standoff.

Twenty Republicans, led by Speaker John A. Boehner, went to the White House at Mr. Obama’s invitation after a day of fine-tuning their offer to increase the Treasury Department’s authority to borrow money to pay existing obligations through Nov. 22. In exchange, they sought the president’s commitment to negotiate a deal for long-term deficit reduction and a tax overhaul.

“The president didn’t say yes, didn’t say no,” said Representative Paul D. Ryan, Republican of Wisconsin. “We’re continuing to negotiate this evening.”

He added: “We put an offer on the table. We had a long, frank conversation about it. We agreed to continue talking and continue negotiating.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/us/politics/debt-limit-debate.html?pagewanted=print

[tularetom]

1. I've read a dozen threads today congratulating the president for saying no

And I definitely wouldn't trust Paul Ryan to be honest about what took place.

It made me happy to see that Obama basically told them to fuck off. He holds all the cards, the public is on his side, his party is united behind him, Wall Street supports his position, the mainstream media have seen the light, the Koch bros. are pissed off with Boner & co., even the non brain dead republicans are with him. He's got them by the balls and the country wants to see him squeeze.

So how come when I read a post like this I get kind of a queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach?

Did he say no or didn't he?

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2. I think we jumped the gun

Obviously the WH didn't say yes but it sounds like there will be some all-nighers in D.C. tonight. Need to hold the line now more than ever. No cave on the big 3!

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3. Obama Rejects G.O.P. Offer of Short-Term Debt Limit Plan ...this was the initial nytimes headline.

they changed it....

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/11/us/politics/debt-limit-debate.html?_r=0