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gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:22 PM Oct 2013

Pres. Obama made an important point just now

"raising the debt ceiling does not raise the debt" "There will not be a single dime of added spending, this is to pay for what we have already bought" I think a lot of low info teabaggers aren't aware of that!

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Pres. Obama made an important point just now (Original Post) gopiscrap Oct 2013 OP
He is pissed. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #1
He's egging on the Teabaggers Turbineguy Oct 2013 #2
He says this over and over again MoonRiver Oct 2013 #3
They are all being paid to shut down the government malaise Oct 2013 #5
It's because the LIV is now in charge at least 1/3 in charge Heather MC Oct 2013 #15
They have been so brain washed, narrow minded, and selfish that they can't digest this truth. The Wielding Truth Oct 2013 #4
He should bring up how the GOP loves to spend and spend and spend. Rex Oct 2013 #6
I hear that canard on Facebook from right-wing trolls Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2013 #7
Even though the congress holds the credit card. PO just signs the receipts. AAO Oct 2013 #16
Forget the Teabaggers...there are a lot of low info Raven Oct 2013 #8
I actually had to say this exact samething to WaitWut Oct 2013 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #10
Sure I just thought that this distinction was really important to highlight gopiscrap Oct 2013 #21
Not just low info teabaggers ... I think most of America doesn't understand that. Myrina Oct 2013 #11
He is very forthcoming - and I'm pleased. Mira Oct 2013 #12
He is a bigger man than I am Cosmocat Oct 2013 #17
I don't think that they care warrior1 Oct 2013 #13
I just hope president Obama Doesn't negotiate after a short term clean deal. munster69 Oct 2013 #14
I think they still don't understand that point. You have to give them a picture. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #18
Yeah and that's the problem with many folks they don't get it gopiscrap Oct 2013 #25
I didn't get to see the presser, but did he address . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #19
It's a shame he has to tailor the discussion to those with no grasp of anything. Hope it works. freshwest Oct 2013 #20
No kidding gopiscrap Oct 2013 #23
The Ryan budget added over $1Trillion to our national debt. displacedtexan Oct 2013 #22
Tea Party = low info TNNurse Oct 2013 #24
you mean......No Info. All they do is parrot whatever nonsense Drudge or Fox or Rush spew. yourout Oct 2013 #26
he gave a great press conference today steve2470 Oct 2013 #27
I agree gopiscrap Oct 2013 #28
Ross Perot pie graph time to expose GOP lies IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #29
sadly, barbtries Oct 2013 #30
Yeah, sorry to say, I am afraid you're correct. gopiscrap Oct 2013 #31

malaise

(269,004 posts)
5. They are all being paid to shut down the government
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:41 PM
Oct 2013

They made a pact to do so from Obama's second inauguration.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
15. It's because the LIV is now in charge at least 1/3 in charge
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

This people don't know their head from their ass as it relates to how out Gov Works
and they are not interested in learning. they a wahy they want it to work and that's all the matters

Its like the decided I want to go faster on my skates so I will ride my bike while I am skating
HUH?????

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. He should bring up how the GOP loves to spend and spend and spend.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:43 PM
Oct 2013

They hate responsibility as much as they hate taxes! He can point this out when asked what he meant.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
7. I hear that canard on Facebook from right-wing trolls
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:44 PM
Oct 2013

as exemplified by comments like: "Time to take this Administration's credit card away!"

Raven

(13,891 posts)
8. Forget the Teabaggers...there are a lot of low info
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:45 PM
Oct 2013

regular folks who don't understand the debt ceiling. Obama needs to reach them with the message. The Teabaggers are a lost, lost cause.

WaitWut

(71 posts)
9. I actually had to say this exact samething to
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013

a co-worker.

Then I said, "You know like lowering taxes and then starting two wars increases deficits.

So essentially you ate yourself a fine meal with appetizers and desert, now your best idea is to run out on the tab because you don't like the coffee your date ordered. Now, that's fiscal responsibility!"

He changed the subject to welfare queens. Blah, Blah, Blah...

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
21. Sure I just thought that this distinction was really important to highlight
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:29 PM
Oct 2013

because I know there are trolls on this site, plus I heard that bit of misinformation from some of the right wingers I have to be around for work.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
12. He is very forthcoming - and I'm pleased.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 03:12 PM
Oct 2013

How he keeps his cool is commendable. I hope he can keep it up and step it up and stay firm.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
17. He is a bigger man than I am
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 04:39 PM
Oct 2013

I would have LONG ago been a lot more frank and direct about the Rs than he has been ...

 

munster69

(107 posts)
14. I just hope president Obama Doesn't negotiate after a short term clean deal.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 03:30 PM
Oct 2013

He mentioned that he is willing to do so. I was hoping he would hold his ground, no short term fix.

markpkessinger

(8,399 posts)
19. I didn't get to see the presser, but did he address . . .
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 05:27 PM
Oct 2013

. . . the talking point proffered by some on the right that he could merely 'choose' to pay debt obligations and mandatory spending and make cuts in discretionary spending? This is something Chris Hayes pointed out the other day (even apart from the damage such a move would do to the economy). The U.S. government writes millions upon millions of checks each year. The entire system is computerized (as indeed it must be in order to handle that kind of volume). It isn't as if somebody decides, "OK, we're going to pay this bill this week, and this bill we're going to wait to pay until next week or next month." There is simply no mechanism by which to do that, nor, given the volume, could such a system be readily created. The notion that we can flag certain obligations to be paid now, and others to wait, is yet another manifestation of the very ignorant idea that the nation is or can be run the way one runs a household. It is a categorical mistake.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
22. The Ryan budget added over $1Trillion to our national debt.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:38 PM
Oct 2013

But repukes don't want to be reminded of that. Or of the fact that the debt limit was raised 18 times during the Reagan administration. Or that this current bunch of tearepukes have already approved of and spent the money they need to pay for now.

Lying sacks of shit, the lot of them.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
24. Tea Party = low info
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 10:36 PM
Oct 2013

Are there well informed, educated, thoughtful members of the Tea Party??? I have seen no evidence of it.

I heard someone compare the government budget to his household budget. How simple minded is that??

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
27. he gave a great press conference today
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 10:41 PM
Oct 2013

He made his points extremely well. Anyone who listened with an open mind would have been impressed and informed.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
29. Ross Perot pie graph time to expose GOP lies
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:09 AM
Oct 2013

As we all know and have read time and time again, the GOP only cares about spending when they're not in charge.

Now is the time for the POTUS to go prime time, pie graphs at the ready and use it. The time to precipitate a forcing of the teabag ayatollahs to have their proper comeuppance meltdowns is now. They are, and have been, engaging in absolute, premeditated and deliberate subversion of their sworn duties as elected lawmakers of this country.

It's a thought.

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
30. sadly,
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:50 AM
Oct 2013

the same low info teabaggers who hate the president so much they either won't be listening, or will call bullshit and disbelieve him when he states this fact.

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