Republicans brought ACA repeal votes to the floor over forty times knowing it was doomed.

[last1standing]

But they won't bring a clean CR to the floor just once because they claim it won't pass.

Is there anyone out there (other than a compliant media) that can justify this hypocrisy?

[tularetom]

1. Remember Einstein's definition of insanity?

Doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results.

Maybe they aren't hypocritical, just insane with rage that a black guy is president.

[hobbit709]

2. "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"

[NightWatcher]

3. I'm not sure if it would pass. The "moderates" are too scared of the teabagger coalition

And they are afraid that they'll be primaried by a Koch sucker, so they toe the nutjob line.

[last1standing]

6. Then put it to a vote and find out.

If the republicans really didn't believe it would pass, they would allow the vote. Keeping it from the floor is a sure sign that they believe it would.

[tk2kewl]

12. ...and the public will get to find out who the assholes really are.

nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

9. What I don't get (re: Moderates being afraid of primaries)

They obviously want to keep their jobs (don't all politicians?) but in order to keep their jobs (and from being primaried) they have to go increasingly hard-right to do it, which means that they have to out-crazy the crazy the teabaggers, not only in words but in action if they go back. At the end of the day, what is the point in keeping your seat if you have to keep moving further and further to the right in order to make it happen? Why would any "sane" (i.e. moderate) Republican want to have to be a wide-eyed lunatic in order to go back to Congress every 2-6 years?

[NightWatcher]

14. they like the perks and the power. I'm with you though

What's the point of having a job if you have to do what other people tell you. You also lose a lot of your power when you have to follow the whims of the insane. But I hear their gym is so nice, it's essential.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

16. The only people telling them what they need to do *should* be their constituents

not the Koch Bros and their Tea Party minions. I would like to see some more sane Republicans stand up to them. I bet that if they did, the primary challenges would be less successful. People-regardless of party- are IMHO more likely to support a fighter over a panderer. And even if not, at least they'd still have their integrity.

[robinlynne]

15. then vote. Their constituents will tell them if they voted correctly!

[PeteSelman]

4. Those repeals all did pass the House didn't they?

Those were successful votes as far as it goes.

[last1standing]

5. If legislation is enacted in a vacuum, yes.

Otherwise, those votes were all failures as they never stood a chance of being enacted - as every republican who voted for them knew.

[PeteSelman]

7. Yes but that's what their argument would be.

We passed them in the House, doing the "will of the People", it's not our fault the Senate wouldn't take them up. We know the clean bill won't pass so we won't waste time doing it. That's the difference.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

10. Even if the Senate held a vote it would still likely fail

and even if somehow, miraculously, it passed in the Senate, President Obama would veto it and there wouldn't be a 2/3 majority in both Houses to override it. So, without a substantial bipartisan support and/or the support of the President, they've known that it's a doomed effort. Their one and only chance to make this happen (until at least 2017) was to get a Republican Senate and Romney in the WH in 2012 but it didn't happen. They nevertheless had to make sure that their new Republicans in Congress got a chance to vote against ACA and have now, of course, resorted to shutting down the government and threatening a default if it isn't gutted, delayed, modified, etc. despite the fact that the Exchanges opened on time on 10/01/13 and are operational- if somewhat glitchy (but Republicans aren't really interested in addressing any issues that would make it easier for people to sign up anyway)- so delaying or significantly modifying it is probably going to make things worse for the country than if they had left it alone and/or were interested in working constructively to make things work right- though that would've involved compromising and compromising is evil, so it's not going to happen that way, so...........

They have to get it through their heads- at some point- that there really is no overwhelming popular support for delaying or repealing ACA and that the focus should be on fixing some of the parts of the law that are causing some issues and fixing them- or building popular support for repealing it and electing people to Congress and to the WH that will do it. Until that happens, any further efforts and/or votes are only going to be purely symbolic

[PeteSelman]

17. I know, you're right.

But the original premise is that they were voting on something they knew wouldn't pass when they absolutely did know it would pass in the House. And they're claiming that the clean CR would not pass.

It doesn't have to make real world sense, they're teabaggers.

[blkmusclmachine]

8. .

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[Rex]

11. They are a bunch of anarchist.

Fucking up everything they touch.

[Lifelong Dem]

13. I heard Rep Labrador yesterday on CNN say because it won't matter

It won't matter if they bring a CR to the floor because it won't pass. All I could think about was where is this logic for the 40 something attempts to repeal Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/10/08/ac-shutdown-labrador-day-seven.cnn.html

[rhett o rick]

18. Harassing them into calling for a vote isnt as important as getting 17 Republicans to

sign the Discharge Petition. That will prove they have the votes.

[City Lights]

19. They're nothing but a bunch of showboaters. nt