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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 12:46 AM Oct 2013

Businessweek - "How to Solve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis Forever" - Hint: The Gephardt (D) Rule

When trying to push the idea that both sides are to blame, the media repeatedly fails to mention that in January 2011, one of the first thing House Republicans did was to repeal the Gephardt rule, which required the debt ceiling to be raised along with the passage of the budget, which sort of makes sense. Why pass a budget that you can't pay for? Of course, that could complicate Republican efforts to pay for tax cuts to the rich, so there is that.

Anyways, the fact of the matter is that for all the talk about a CR, Congress has not passed a budget. They are now fixated on a CR, which is simply a band aid. The parties could end this drama, but extending the debt ceiling for a short period of time long enough to actually pass a budget, get serious about passing a budget, then as part of the budget, raise the debt ceiling per the Gephardt rule. Indeed, the reinstatement of the Gephardt rule should be a Democratic demand to keep Republicans from insisting on unpaid for budget busting tax cuts for the rich.

Unfortunately, this makes way too much sense for modern House Republicans, which means that there is a slim chance that this gets implemented.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-07/how-to-solve-the-debt-ceiling-crisis-forever

Most of the history of past shutdowns and near-defaults dredged up to lend perspective to the current crisis focuses on how common these events were in the past. But for more than a decade, in the 1980s and early ’90s, the default threat was basically eliminated. The trick was doing away with the bizarre two-step process by which the U.S. government budgets and then spends money.

Quick civics refresher: First, Congress passes a budget resolution that determines how much will be spent. Then it raises the debt limit to allow for that spending. Why two steps? There is no good reason. It invites the widespread misperception, currently being fanned by Republicans (but also once fanned by one Senator Barack Obama), that the critical spending decisions come in Step Two, not Step One, and that refusing to raise the debt ceiling addresses them. It does not. But it does cause crises like the one we’re in now.

Back in 1979, the Democratic House Speaker, Tip O’Neill, handed the unhappy job of lining up votes for a debt-ceiling raise to Representative Richard Gephardt, then a young Democratic congressman from Missouri. Gephardt hated this, and, realizing he’d probably get stuck with it again, consulted the parliamentarian about whether the two votes could be combined. The parliamentarian said they could. Thereafter, whenever the House passed a budget resolution, the debt ceiling was “deemed” raised.


The “Gephardt Rule,” as it became known, lasted until 1995, when the new House Speaker, Newt Gingrich, fresh from the Republican triumph of the 1994 midterms, recognized the same thing that Tea Party Republicans recognize today: The threat of default could be used to extort Democratic concessions. Gingrich abolished the Gephardt Rule, and within the year the government had shut down.
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Businessweek - "How to Solve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis Forever" - Hint: The Gephardt (D) Rule (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2013 OP
thanks for posting. I would have missed this information if you hadn't posted it. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #1
Just because they have the rule doesn't mean it can't be suspended or overruled. dkf Oct 2013 #2
Maybe the corpheaduptheirass media doesn't know.. I was Cha Oct 2013 #3
Or we could just win back the house in 2014. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #4
Read of this last night. And the Repukes voted down that rule in 2011 when they took over the House Roland99 Oct 2013 #5
. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #6
Very important information. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #7
I just had to point out MelissainKC Oct 2013 #8
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #10
Important info kentuck Oct 2013 #11
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
2. Just because they have the rule doesn't mean it can't be suspended or overruled.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 01:04 AM
Oct 2013

It's a little dated as this piece was written in 2008 (when they still had the Gephardt rule) but the history is relevant.


The House may develop debt-limit legislation under House Rule XXVII,
commonly referred to as the Gephardt rule, named after its author, former
Representative Richard Gephardt. The rule, which was established by P.L. 96-78 and
first applied in calendar year 1980, provides for the automatic engrossment and transmittal to the Senate of a joint resolution changing the public debt limit, upon the adoption by Congress of the budget resolution, thereby avoiding a separate vote in the House on the public debt-limit legislation. The Senate has no comparable procedure; if it chooses to consider a House-passed joint resolution, it does so under the regular legislative process.

The House also may develop and consider debt-limit legislation without resorting to the Gephardt rule, either as freestanding legislation, as part of another measure, or as part of a budget reconciliation bill. Of the 42 public-debt limit changes enacted into law during the period 1980 to the present, 28 were enacted without resorting to the Gephardt rule.

In 11 of the 29 years since the Gephardt rule was established, the rule did not
apply, due to its suspension or repeal by the House (calendar years 1988, 1990-1991, 1994-1997, and 1999-2002). In most cases, the House suspended the rule because legislation changing the statutory limit was not necessary; at the time, the existing public debt limit was expected to be sufficient.

During the remaining 18 years, when the rule was in effect, the House originated
19 joint resolutions under this procedure; 14 were signed into law. The first seven
of these 18 joint resolutions were generated under the Gephardt rule in its original form. The rule was modified in 1983; the current rule is substantively the same as the 1983 form of the rule. The subsequent 12 joint resolutions were generated under this modified language. In three years (calendar years 1998, 2004, and 2006), the House and Senate did not agree to a conference report on the budget resolution and therefore the automatic engrossment process under the Gephardt rule was not utilized.

http://congressionalresearch.com/RL31913/document.php

Cha

(297,275 posts)
3. Maybe the corpheaduptheirass media doesn't know.. I was
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:01 AM
Oct 2013

coming on here to say the House repealed in 2011. I read it on DU

thanks for OP, Tom

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
4. Or we could just win back the house in 2014.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 02:03 AM
Oct 2013

Because honestly, asking the GOP nicely to stop acting all fucking nuts, isn't going to work IMHO.

MelissainKC

(11 posts)
8. I just had to point out
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:29 AM
Oct 2013

That when Barack said that about the debt ceiling the budget did not include the Iraq war. The war was funded through emergency funding to hide its true cost and to make the budget appear balanced. So saying the debt ceiling had to be raised because of the budget was a lie.

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