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sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:09 PM Oct 2013

True once again



In February 1860, Abraham Lincoln gave a speech at New York's Cooper Union that many historians believe catapulted him onto the national stage and into the presidency. It may even be more pertinent today for what he said about intransigent political blocs.

A few excerpts:

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Under all these circumstances, do you really feel yourselves justified to break up this Government unless such a court decision as yours is, shall be at once submitted to as a conclusive and final rule of political action?

But you will not abide the election of a Republican president! In that supposed event, you say, you will destroy the Union; and then, you say, the great crime of having destroyed it will be upon us! That is cool. A highwayman holds a pistol to my ear, and mutters through his teeth, "Stand and deliver, or I shall kill you, and then you will be a murderer!" [...]

A few words now to Republicans. It is exceedingly desirable that all parts of this great Confederacy shall be at peace, and in harmony, one with another. Let us Republicans do our part to have it so. Even though much provoked, let us do nothing through passion and ill temper.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-lincoln-20131001,0,1991443.story
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True once again (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2013 OP
You know Pres Obama has studied Lincoln, she.. Cha Oct 2013 #1
I know, Cha~ sheshe2 Oct 2013 #2
Darn.. Cha Oct 2013 #5
Is that an actual quote by Lincoln?? kentuck Oct 2013 #3
Yes, sheshe2 Oct 2013 #4
As true today as he was then, but... freshwest Oct 2013 #6
Hi freshwest~ sheshe2 Oct 2013 #7
I'll have to re-think that word, although I know it has several meanings, it's often used as slang. freshwest Oct 2013 #8
My guess, fresh... sheshe2 Oct 2013 #9
I'm sure that is what he meant. It's just such a common phrase today, and not negative now. freshwest Oct 2013 #10

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
2. I know, Cha~
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 11:23 PM
Oct 2013


LINCOLN IS A PRESIDENT I TURN TO OFTEN. From time to time, I’ll walk over to the Lincoln Bedroom and reread the handwritten Gettysburg Address encased in glass, or reflect on the Emancipation Proclamation, which hangs in the Oval Office, or pull a volume of his writings from the library in search of lessons to draw.

Always thoughtful, always eloquent, Lincoln’s writings speak to me as they speak to so many Americans, reminding us what is best about ourselves and the Union he saved: that though we may have our differences, we are one people, and we are one nation, united by a common creed.

That, I believe, is why, a century and a half after he took office, Lincoln is revered by the American people. Such reverence is richly deserved, but it comes at a cost. The Lincoln who holds a place in our national memory is less a man than an icon—a face carved in black hills, a marble giant towering over us on a mall.

What makes Alexander Gardner’s print so resonant, then, is its humanity. Here is Lincoln as he was, his eyes weary, his forehead wrinkled, wearing an expression, wrote a poet, of “deep latent sadness.” But Gardner also captures something else. An eyebrow, arched. An upturned lip. The faintest hint of a smile. There is, in the photographer’s print, something of his subject’s spirit.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/02/perfecting-our-union/308832/

The part I highlighted Cha. Obama's spirit as well.

Cha

(297,254 posts)
5. Darn..
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 11:31 PM
Oct 2013

Now I'm crying.. wipes away tear So poignant~

Mahalo, she To The two Presidents' Spirits

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
7. Hi freshwest~
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 12:22 AM
Oct 2013

I wandered off to the BOG for a bit.

Well, it's here anyway...

Under all these circumstances, do you really feel yourselves justified to break up this Government unless such a court decision as yours is, shall be at once submitted to as a conclusive and final rule of political action? But you will not abide the election of a Republican president! In that supposed event, you say, you will destroy the Union; and then, you say, the great crime of having destroyed it will be upon us! That is cool. A highwayman holds a pistol to my ear, and mutters through his teeth, "Stand and deliver, or I shall kill you, and then you will be a murderer!"

http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/cooper.htm

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
8. I'll have to re-think that word, although I know it has several meanings, it's often used as slang.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 12:39 AM
Oct 2013

sheshe2

(83,773 posts)
9. My guess, fresh...
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 01:11 AM
Oct 2013

He said cool meaning cold or heartless. That would in fact describe the new GOP/ Baggers.

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