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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:43 AM Oct 2013

The F-35 Fighter Jet Program Has Precisely 719 Problems

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/the-f-35-fighter-jet-program-has-precisely-719-problems/280193/



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The IG’s 126-page report concluded that prime contractor Lockheed Martin and its subcontractors Northrop Grumman, BAE Systems, L-3 Display Systems, Honeywell Aerospace and United Technologies Corporation “did not follow disciplined AS9100 Quality Management System practices,” citing 363 findings, which documented 719 issues that could “adversely affect aircraft performance, reliability, maintainability, and ultimately cost.”

Among the numerous oversight shortcomings, the IG found that JPO failed to:

Ensure that Lockheed Martin and its subcontractors were applying rigor to design, manufacturing, and quality assurance processes.

Flow down critical safety item requirements.

Ensure that Lockheed Martin flowed down quality assurance and technical requirements to subcontractors.

Establish an effective quality assurance organization.

Ensure that the Defense Contract Management Agency perform adequate quality assurance oversight.

In addition, the Defense Contract Management Agency did not sufficiently perform Government quality assurance oversight of F-35 contractors.
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The F-35 Fighter Jet Program Has Precisely 719 Problems (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2013 OP
1. It doesn't work. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #1
yes. the White Courtesy Obvious Phone has been ringing off the hook. nt xchrom Oct 2013 #7
As an aircraft design, it's a failure, but it has succeeded marvelously in its actual goal Orrex Oct 2013 #2
I got 719 problems, but a lack of funding ain't one nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #3
Like the Republicans keep saying about Obamacare the wheels are falling off doc03 Oct 2013 #4
Does ObamaCare cover the war boner for the F35? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #5
The question I have is... Cooley Hurd Oct 2013 #6
Problem 720; Usage of bullshit, nonsensical, corporate doublespeak words.... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #8
You do realize zipplewrath Oct 2013 #9
jeez,as a carpenter I can see what went wrong onethatcares Oct 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #11
A hunk of junk... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12
This is mostly about the paperwork, not the plane FarCenter Oct 2013 #13
But a Mitch ain't one. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #14

doc03

(35,364 posts)
4. Like the Republicans keep saying about Obamacare the wheels are falling off
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:50 AM
Oct 2013

shut it down. That won't happen.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
5. Does ObamaCare cover the war boner for the F35?
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:53 AM
Oct 2013

If so, good, because it apparently has lasted well over 4 hours for Lockheed.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
6. The question I have is...
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 09:56 AM
Oct 2013

...all of the technologies employed in this aircraft are proven. WHY, when they're drawn together, is THIS aircraft a clusterfuck?

I'm a Lockheed fan (Loughead, for the purists) of the Skunk Works and Kelly Johnson. Where did they go wrong?? (perhaps the Martin-Marietta merger???).

Corporatism has been ruining the country for the last 30 years - and affecting our national security!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,376 posts)
8. Problem 720; Usage of bullshit, nonsensical, corporate doublespeak words....
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
Oct 2013

like "Flow Down".

Jesus H. Christ making balloon animals.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. You do realize
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 10:13 AM
Oct 2013

The list you posted was a list of the JPO (Joint Program Office) failings, not LMCO. The JPO is basically a government entity. I suspect the 719 issues are similar, or related anyway. Although I hope they got more than this because this is predominately a complaint that they weren't following standard practices, not that something doesn't actually work.

onethatcares

(16,184 posts)
10. jeez,as a carpenter I can see what went wrong
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 10:15 AM
Oct 2013

"did not follow disciplined AS9100 Quality Management System practices".

It boils down to "place proper nail here to hold wall together".

Or they know how to milk the taxpayer teat for all it's worth. Which is what I believe is the truth.

BTW. Who the hell are we protecting ourselves from with this thing? Somali pirates or Afgani insurgents?

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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
13. This is mostly about the paperwork, not the plane
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 11:40 AM
Oct 2013

These are 719 deviations from QA requirements of the AS9100 Quality Management System.

A small number may affect performance, safety, etc. of the actual aircraft.

Done properly, the paper likely outweighs the aircraft.

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