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Make7

(8,543 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:12 AM Oct 2013

The Party of No upset that Obama is now the one saying no.

Isn't amazing how a party that has made obstruction their mission is now saying that President can't just say no and not negotiate? I guess IOKIYAR, but not okay for anyone else.

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The Party of No upset that Obama is now the one saying no. (Original Post) Make7 Oct 2013 OP
Only he's never said that he's not negotiating period Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2013 #1
not amazing... handmade34 Oct 2013 #2

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
1. Only he's never said that he's not negotiating period
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:24 AM
Oct 2013

he's just (rightfully) not doing it at the barrel of a gun and neither are any Democrats. The Repubs need to stop fooling around with these games, get the government re-opened, raise the debt ceiling, and appoint conferees for long-term budget negotiations and get on with the business of running the government- like they were elected to. Too much to ask for?

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
2. not amazing...
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 08:27 AM
Oct 2013

a precedent had been set... this is what Paul Ryan said in an interview on September 28:

I asked Ryan if he believes President Obama’s steadfast vows that he won’t negotiate over the debt ceiling. His reaction? You’ve got to be kidding me.

“Oh, nobody believes that. Nobody believes that. He himself negotiated Bowles Simpson on the debt limit with Democrats. That was Kent Conrad’s requirement. He himself negotiated the Budget Control Act with the debt limit. Graham Rudman. Bush Andrews Airforce Base. Clinton Gore ‘97. All of those major budget agreements were debt limit agreements. I see this time as no different and I believe he does too. I think most people believe he’s just posturing for now,” he says.



http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/359818/paul-ryan-cr-fight-will-inevitably-roll-debt-ceiling-fight-jonathan-strong
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