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Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 04:38 AM Oct 2013

I was just thinking that if Obama agreed to delay the ACA for a year...

Which was the GOP demand, they would immediately re-neg on the agreement and demand full defunding of it or they will still bring the economy down.

Obama already agreed to their budget in return for not shutting the government down and look how well that turned out.

When you deal with people who have no honor or scruples the only thing you can do is refuse to deal with them and let the chips fall where they may.
Unfortunately this time the chips may all fall into a bottomless pit, never to be seen again.

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I was just thinking that if Obama agreed to delay the ACA for a year... (Original Post) Kablooie Oct 2013 OP
He won't Hekate Oct 2013 #1
They're never satisfied when they get something. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #2
Fuck that shit. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #3
Hell they don't even take personal responsibility for shutting down the government. B Calm Oct 2013 #4
Just seeing those A-holes on TV vi5 Oct 2013 #5
thousands+++ of people have made their insurance plans for 2014 w/ ACA. ACA is funded. Sunlei Oct 2013 #6
Extortion jaxind Oct 2013 #7
We do know. 99Forever Oct 2013 #8
It's more blatant than that jeff47 Oct 2013 #9

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
2. They're never satisfied when they get something.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 05:22 AM
Oct 2013

They're only emboldened to push the envelope further and try to get more. It's just like tax cuts for the rich. It wasn't enough to get one or two cuts for them; they have to keep pushing for more cuts. Finally, the last time they pressured the Democrats for more cuts, some of them came out and said that we should eliminate taxes on the "job creators." You can't deal with assholes like that. All you can do is isolate them and do your best to take away their power. They declared war against the people a long time ago; it's time to fight it out and put them in their place.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
4. Hell they don't even take personal responsibility for shutting down the government.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 06:10 AM
Oct 2013

You can't negotiate with these idiots!

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
5. Just seeing those A-holes on TV
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 06:49 AM
Oct 2013

Saying "If only the president would negotiate with us....if only he weren't so focused on taking down the other party."

The fact that this crap is aired without correction or clarification of the goddamned facts makes me want to throw stuff at my tv.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
6. thousands+++ of people have made their insurance plans for 2014 w/ ACA. ACA is funded.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 07:20 AM
Oct 2013

Republicans have screwed America in so many ways with their brinksmanship and political games. They have adjusted laws, wrote new laws, have political 'charities' & lobbyists write law for them slip-in secret riders constantly. all on the unfair but legal side of the fence. They don't get elected to serve Americans these days.

all republican crap always reminds me of what MLK said.
"Never forget, everything Hitler did was legal"

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
7. Extortion
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 07:24 AM
Oct 2013

Yeah, and how do we know that each time they don't get things their way that they're not going to blackmail us again with shutting the government down?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. We do know.
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 07:36 AM
Oct 2013

They will hold We the People hostage again and again and again. All history is prolog.

Welcome to DU.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
9. It's more blatant than that
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 10:07 AM
Oct 2013

They're trying to delay the mandate a year, not the rest of the ACA?

Why? Because it would create an adverse selection death-spiral

The sick would still sign up in droves, but the healthy wouldn't. That would massively screw up the exchanges, allowing the Republicans to "prove" the ACA is a terrible idea that won't work.

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