Freepers, cave dwellers and the contraception debate.

[Atman]

Wading into the right-wing cesspools of stupidity, I must admit that I appear to be missing something when reading their hate-filled steaming piles of ignorance; could someone please explain to me why they think this is a TAX issue?

Post after post -- including the Limpballs rant -- speak of taxpayers being forced to pay for contraception. They claim this is what they're upset about. What did I miss? All the Obama plan called for was for insurance companies to provide equal coverage for all who pay for it. No one's employer pays for 100% of the employee's insurance, it is split in varying degrees with the wage earner. But our TAX MONEY doesn't pay for it. Insurance companies make profits from it. Why should an employer care? And if an employer says "you can't have contraception as a part of your health care package," should women get a hefty discount to reflect the savings, or will insurance companies just pocket even more profit?

Either way, how the hell is this an issue of spending tax dollars to provide contraception?

[Sparkly]

1. They've created their own narrative, as usual.

[Faygo Kid]

2. They are trying to implode in the elections this year.

They are doomed if this is what they are going to run on. And it appears that this is what they are going to run on.

[GoCubsGo]

5. I don't think it's intentional.

But, implosion IS their trajectory. This is what happens when you run everyone out of your party who isn't an extremist. I can't explain how this is a tax issue, either. These boobs are just parroting what they're told by Rush and the other assholes who tell them how to think.

[immoderate]

3. Birth control REDUCES overall health care costs.

It's less expensive for insurance companies to hand out BC than to provide pre-natal, maternal, and child care.

--imm

[treestar]

8. Exactly. They are willing to pay for others births, which would follow from their "logic."

They are willing to pay for others' drug treatment, psych treatment, treatment for things they could blame the person for getting (like smokers). But this one thing they don't want to pay for, even if they have to pay more for the alternate consequences.

[safeinOhio]

4. No, no, no, it's about religious freedom.

They want freedom for the church to make a law that forces everyone to comply with rules that they can not convince their members to follow.

[madmom]

6. I've been wondering and asking this very same thing!

[treestar]

7. Absolutely right

They are making this frame up. For all they know they have been "paying" for years - their employer provided health insurance may already cover it - and they didn't worry about it then. And the answer is that they don't have to use it - they are not paying for it for others, why should they pay for other's anything? They want others to have more difficulty accessing birth control. That is their agenda, and they are trying to hide it.

[tosh]

9. That is what Faux News & Limpballs

are telling them.

They won't accept facts because their talking heads are telling them something else.

[hfojvt]

10. maybe because some people work for the government

Hence when "their employer" pays for insurance, they do so with my tax dollars.

Then also, there is medicaid., but I have no problem with that, since those people cannot afford contraceptives.

[KharmaTrain]

11. Obamacare = Socialized Medicine...

As others have pointed out much of what rushbo and others are bleating is a hodgepodge of talking points and misinformation. The bottom line is they hate Obama and Obamacare and since the birth control provisions are part of Obamacare its obviously government/socialistic intrustion. They're blissfully clueless on how the individual mandate works or how far removed this is from a true single payer system but they've been so brainwashed by insurance company talking points anything that relates to health is Obamacare and thus is evil/socialist/bad.

This also conflates with the long-running "fundamentalist" view that women are second class citizens...or even property. The "strict constitutionalist" means a woman shouldn't vote yet have any real civil rights. Her reproductive system is property and thus can and must be controlled...by men. It's the "alpha male" way of how the world works.

When you wrap things up in talking points, any issue and the hypocrisy it creates can easily be explained away as being a "constitutional" matter...even when it isn't.

[Volaris]

12. THIS

You beat me to it

[Atman]

13. Well, they've discovered this thread...and the stupidity is on full display.

They apparently think the insurance companies are providing something FREE in a product for which they're charging upwards of $1600 a month. They seem to be under the impression that "Obamacare," whatever the hell that means, provides free health care to all. These pillars of wisdom also don't understand that "contraception" doesn't simply mean a pill to prevent babies; that doctors prescribe the pill for other medical conditions, not just so women can choose when and with whom they'd like to bear children.

The level of hatred and ignorance is simply astonishing. This, my friends, is the Republican base: the terminally stupid. The GOP has apparently figured out that it is much easier selling fear and loathing to the woefully uninformed than to educated people.

[sarcasmo]

14. War OK, Women's health bad, the Republican mind is a muddled mess.