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sorry, couldn't resist.
Bigfoot is real, and there's now both DNA and video evidence to prove it, claims one group of devoted Sasquatch researchers.
The group's "never-before-seen footage" of an alleged Bigfoot creature sleeping in the woods of Kentucky has been presented this week along with various blood and hair samples said to be unlike anything seen before.
The group's startling statements are supposedly backed by 11 outside laboratories and universities, which all reviewed the findings, and which were provided with blind samples, according to the report by the Sasquatch Genome Project.
"We want people to understand that this is a serious study," Dr. Melba Ketchum, a genetics scientist, who led the project during the course of the five-year study, told CBS DFW.
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Among the genetic and visual findings presented by the group in Dallas on Tuesday is video of what is described as "a reddish brown Sasquatch juvenile" sleeping in the woods after being tracked with her mother.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bigfoot-existence-backed-dna-video-report-article-1.1473883#ixzz2ghRTeQ13
longship
(40,416 posts)The only thing that's going to settle the Big Foot question is a body. Sad, but true.
But if Big Foot really exists there has to be a breeding population, about 2,000 at minimum, within an area. Many fewer than that and they go extinct quickly. Nature's a bitch sometimes.
Given that. Why hasn't a Big Foot ever been hit by a car on some lonely country road? If there's a breeding population, where are the bodies of those that die?
With all the people running around the wilds, why hasn't anybody ever seen a family group, but only apparently solitary Big Foot who looks just like some dude in a costume?
The only way to resolve this is a body, a real body. That's the gold standard. And nothing else will settle it.
I don't care if Big Foot exists or not. But somebody says they do, I want the evidence to be consistent with the existence of a breeding population of bipedal hominid-like creatures before I would give it a nod. I want the evidence to be peer reviewed.
I don't see that here.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)I think it would be cool if there were Big Foot. Sadly, I would bet there isn't.
hunter
(38,313 posts)They blink, sort of like Barbara Eden in "I Dream of Jeannie" and then they are gone. Maybe to an alternate universe even...
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)but has never been documented beyond doubt is literally incredible.
It has never been shot, stuffed and mounted.
Has never been found dead on the side of the road.
Has never died in the middle of the woods and been discovered.
Has never wandered into a human city and been witnessed.
etc.
I'm not a mammal biologist, but when was the last time a new species of North American mammal discovered, of any appreciable size?
There is no bigfoot. Logic and lack of evidence indicate as much.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)with such small numbers that can evade hard emirical observation of some kind.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)But there is Little Feat!
Bryn
(3,621 posts)First gorilla was discovered in 1902.
It was described in the 19th century.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)(none from North America though)
http://listverse.com/2008/06/03/top-10-extinct-creatures-that-arent-extinct/
Top 10 Extinct Creatures That Arent Extinct
Jamie Frater June 3, 2008
We seem to be bombarded constantly by doom and gloom tales of new animals becoming extinct and being told that we should be stopping it something that is usually impossible for the average person. I thought it might be nice to show a positive list about extinct animals, so here is my list on the top 10 animals that were thought to be extinct but are actually still around!
10 New Holland Mouse (more at link)
9 Terror Skink (more at link)
8 Giant Palouse Earthworm (more at link)
7 Takahe (bird - more at link)
6 Mountain Pygmy Possum (more at link)
5 Gracilidris (ant - more at link)
4 Bermuda Petrel (bird - more at link)
3 Laotian Rock Rat (more at link - from the Miocene period 5 million years ago/first modern specimen found at a meat market)
2 La Palma Giant Lizard (more at link)
1 The Coelacanth
This entry is number one because it is the coolest the Coelacanth was thought to be extinct since the end of the Cretaceous period (my note = 66 million years ago). In 1938 it was rediscovered in various African nations, making it a Lazarus Taxon one of a group of organisms that disappears from the fossil record only to come back to life later. Coelacanths first appear in the fossil record 410 million years ago. They normally live near the bottom of the ocean floor but have, on some occasions, been caught closer to the surface. They have been known to grow past fifteen feet long, but there isnt a single attack record on a human as the fish live so deep.
Jamie Frater: Jamie is the founder of Listverse. He spends his time working on the site, doing research for new lists, and cooking. He is fascinated with all things morbid and bizarre.
Sometimes "inconceivable" does not mean what you think it means.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Perhaps it is YOU who have been disproved by your "proof".
And, these animals were thought to be extinct, which necessarily implies that there is evidence that they existed in the first place.
No such "evidence" exists for bigfoot.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)And I wasn't offering "proof" of anything except that the world is a big place, and there are still things we don't know.
Plus I thought it was interesting, and I found your question thought provoking.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)I'm more than willing to accept that maybe a kraken DOES exist in the ocean... but a bigfoot? come ON!
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Apparently if you look at our dna, many of us "crossed the species barrier" with other hominids in the past millennia, yet we still have folks who get into a fussy fit if you explain that yes, we are related to other mammals, even if it is distantly.
I neither affirm nor deny the existence of a bigfoot, or a yeti, or even the Loch Ness monster. I just don't know enough to have an opinion other than a "wow, that is interesting." Those who wish to explore and investigate have my blessings. I have other hobbies that keep me busy.
In the meantime, I am grateful your question inspired me to play with google for a few minutes, because as I said, I thought the article was interesting - species that disappeared from the fossil record millions of years ago, then "found" to be still existing in modern times - NEAT!
Not trying to pick a fight. Talk to you later!
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Response to cali (Original post)
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frogmarch
(12,153 posts)in Creative Speculation a while back.
But here it is in GD of all places.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)What next... Mothman?
omg! There he is!!