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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:57 PM Oct 2013

Ole Miss Football Players Disrupt Performance About Hate Crimes By Yelling Gay Slurs

A group of 20 University of Mississippi football players disrupted an on-campus play Wednesday night by yelling gay slurs at cast members, missing the entire point of the play a theater class required them to attend.

The play, The Laramie Project, tells the story of Matthew Shepard, who was murdered on in 1998 on the University of Wyoming’s campus. Shepard was gay and his murder brought to light the lack of hate crimes laws in states across America. Instead of learning that lesson, though, the group of football players and other audience members heckled the cast with gay slurs of their own, the Daily Mississippian, Ole Miss’ student newspaper, reported:

According to the play’s director and theater faculty member Rory Ledbetter, some audience members used derogatory slurs like “fag” and heckled both cast members and the characters they were portraying for their body types and sexual orientations. Ledbetter said the audience’s reactions included “borderline hate speech.”

“I am the only gay person on the cast,” junior theater major Garrison Gibbons said. “I played a gay character in the show, and to be ridiculed like that was something that really made me realize that some people at Ole Miss and in Mississippi still can’t accept me for who I am.”

full: http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2013/10/03/2728541/ole-miss-football-players-disrupt-play-about-hate-crimes-by-yelling-gay-slurs/

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Ole Miss Football Players Disrupt Performance About Hate Crimes By Yelling Gay Slurs (Original Post) alp227 Oct 2013 OP
This is not much of a surprise, sadly. Ron Green Oct 2013 #1
Methinks some protest to loudly. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #39
I guess you not being gay and abused may affect your opinion. dballance Oct 2013 #47
No offense meant. I think you missed my point...but Shakes knows what i mean. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #69
Hope the coach throws all of them off the team. n/t dgibby Oct 2013 #2
In Mississippi? No way. He'd get fired, nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #5
Unfortunately, they will all be paraded to a podium where they will beg forgiveness ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #7
Ole Miss needs that high school football coach from Utah that shutdown the whole team... Roland99 Oct 2013 #17
Bigotry, ignorance, hate, and backwardness in Mississippi? No way! nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #3
Duh. mnhtnbb Oct 2013 #20
And the repercussions will be.... theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #4
No, there will be consequences. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #10
That's even worse! RavensChick Oct 2013 #21
OR... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #52
I'm sure they'll be "groomed" to be even more bigoted sakabatou Oct 2013 #71
“borderline hate speech.” madaboutharry Oct 2013 #6
Stay classy, Ole Miss. Hayabusa Oct 2013 #8
Talk about missing the point! Initech Oct 2013 #9
Assholes Aerows Oct 2013 #11
Stay strong and stay safe. dgibby Oct 2013 #15
I will :) Aerows Oct 2013 #26
Yep, I was born in Mississippi and this kind of shit....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #65
sounds like another football team that needs a come to Jesus lesson from a decent coach. Sunlei Oct 2013 #12
Were they wearing their tights? aquart Oct 2013 #13
and slapping each other on the butt.. frylock Oct 2013 #25
My first urge was to offer Aerows Oct 2013 #28
please don't think that this was directed at you, or any other liberals in your state.. frylock Oct 2013 #30
Thanks, frylock Aerows Oct 2013 #32
Florida chiming in DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #70
I'm shocked... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #14
Tradition. Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #16
This is why you don't force attendance at events like this LittleBlue Oct 2013 #18
Events 'like this'? It's a play and they are university students taking a theater class Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #37
Speaking as an ex football jock I always stood up for those who were bullied. Sadly I know that Arcanetrance Oct 2013 #41
No one "forced" them to go at all Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #42
They should all be thrown off the team bigwillq Oct 2013 #19
To add to that, RavensChick Oct 2013 #22
Big dumbass gorillas. lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #23
I never cheer for Auburn (unless they're playing Georgia Tech) MNBrewer Oct 2013 #46
They should all be banned from football, and if not the team should be banned. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #24
They didn't miss the point. They rejected it outright. DevonRex Oct 2013 #27
That might actually work. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #62
ole miss football is currently ranked 24 in the nation.. frylock Oct 2013 #29
People who do that are insecure about their own sexuality. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #31
It's no mistake sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #33
Mississippi, second in crazy to Florida, first in racism Taverner Oct 2013 #34
And last in brains. QuestForSense Oct 2013 #35
They have the brains, they just don't have education Taverner Oct 2013 #36
Maybe ole miss needs a lesson, everyone should email the coach and and dean this video. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #38
Just a bunch of lowlifes in jockstraps AAO Oct 2013 #40
The Team had practice that afternoon. BlueJazz Oct 2013 #43
Err...what are you trying to say here? alp227 Oct 2013 #58
"You do realize that racist humor uses primates to depict black people, right?" BlueJazz Oct 2013 #61
Er, what are YOU trying to say here-- geologic Oct 2013 #67
They should be kicked off the team today CanonRay Oct 2013 #44
Fucking bigots... SidDithers Oct 2013 #45
the response from ole miss rdking647 Oct 2013 #48
But most of all ... they apologize on behalf of the revenues generated by their athletic program. lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #51
Anybody here shocked???????? nt Cryptoad Oct 2013 #49
About Ole Miss? Nope, not in the slightest. agentS Oct 2013 #72
they should all flunk the class rdking647 Oct 2013 #50
Those hecklers must be future Teabagger Senators. nt valerief Oct 2013 #53
FN ignorant libodem Oct 2013 #54
the hate of all types heaven05 Oct 2013 #55
SEC! SEC! SEC! jumptheshadow Oct 2013 #56
Aw, you're just jealous. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #64
Mizzou, here (nt) jumptheshadow Oct 2013 #68
That's why they are called 'football players.' pangaia Oct 2013 #57
I've seen some responses that it's not a surprise, but it's shocking to me. Dorian Gray Oct 2013 #59
The ugly past continues to live in America. SoapBox Oct 2013 #60
Matthew Shepard was not murdered on UW's campus. TransitJohn Oct 2013 #63
Kick them all off the team. nt MineralMan Oct 2013 #66
Disgusting. NealK Oct 2013 #73
 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
47. I guess you not being gay and abused may affect your opinion.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

Having been abused for being gay perhaps I am a bit more sensitive. I only protest loudly to make things better for others.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
7. Unfortunately, they will all be paraded to a podium where they will beg forgiveness
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:03 PM
Oct 2013

for their youthful disregard for the feelings of others, claim they are antibullying, yada yada...


and then, football.

It's a disgrace.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
17. Ole Miss needs that high school football coach from Utah that shutdown the whole team...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:13 PM
Oct 2013

after it was discovered some (many?) were bullying kids.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. Assholes
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:06 PM
Oct 2013

I live in MS and people here try to live like the 50's that never happened. It's disgusting. As a gay woman, it isn't easy, even though I "pass" as straight. I shouldn't even have to do that, and increasingly haven't even bothered. I'm here, I'm queer and fuck you if you want to throw Bibles at me.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
15. Stay strong and stay safe.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:12 PM
Oct 2013

There's no excuse for this type of behavior. If they were at Virginia Tech, Beamer would frog march them off the campus.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. My first urge was to offer
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:36 PM
Oct 2013

a "fuck you" for assuming all of us in MS were assholes, but then I considered it, and realized that we have a high proportion of them and so I'll just offer a sad face.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
30. please don't think that this was directed at you, or any other liberals in your state..
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

this was entirely at the expense of the players and coaching staff of the rebels.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. Thanks, frylock
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:43 PM
Oct 2013

It's sad that we have so many idiots in my state. It's got decent weather when we aren't getting slammed with hurricanes or suffocated by heat. Generally the people are pretty nice even though they have a tendency to Bible-thump.

I appreciate that you realize there are some liberals down here, and we fight tooth and nail for it

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
70. Florida chiming in
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:58 AM
Oct 2013

Yes, we have liberals down here too. Little by little, we will drive the Neo-confederates out of power!

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
14. I'm shocked...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:11 PM
Oct 2013

Shocked that only 20 people disrupted...at this bastion of liberalism known as Ole Miss (short for mistake) one would think the whole team would have been knocking the stage over.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
18. This is why you don't force attendance at events like this
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:13 PM
Oct 2013

Make it voluntary for people who actually want to be there, they'll have genuine intentions. Do you really think football jocks would behave at a play like this?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
37. Events 'like this'? It's a play and they are university students taking a theater class
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:05 PM
Oct 2013

This play is produced and seen in High Schools, it's not some sex play it is a heavily produced piece of contemporary American theater. Mississippi. Goddamn.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
41. Speaking as an ex football jock I always stood up for those who were bullied. Sadly I know that
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:18 PM
Oct 2013

isn't the norm

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
42. No one "forced" them to go at all
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:19 PM
Oct 2013

if they felt that strongly about it, they should have just skipped it and taken the points deduction from the professor

RavensChick

(3,123 posts)
22. To add to that,
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

they should be outed as the racist asswipes they are all over the Internet! Then they'll see what's it like for anyone, gay, straight, black, white, etc. to experience that level of humiliation.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
23. Big dumbass gorillas.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:20 PM
Oct 2013



The Athletic Director and the coaching staff have some explaining to do.

And any teams that play Ole Miss as the visiting team would be right in
not allowing them to play in their stadium IMO.

**Next 'away' game for Ole Miss is at Auburn this Saturday.

Schedule: http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/ole-m-footbl-sched.html

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
46. I never cheer for Auburn (unless they're playing Georgia Tech)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:31 PM
Oct 2013

but I'll make an exception this time.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
27. They didn't miss the point. They rejected it outright.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:35 PM
Oct 2013

I'm glad the coach has said and done what he has so far. But it had better not end there. One of the comments in the article said the players should be suspended from the team. Then they should be made to perform the play itself.

I think that's a very good idea. What better way of making them realize what Matthew Shepard went through than to put on the play? And what better way of knowing what actors go through than to actually have to endure the work it takes to learn the part and then put themselves out there for criticism or praise? Or ridicule heckling...

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
62. That might actually work.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:43 PM
Oct 2013

It probably would never happen, but if they did make them perform the play, it would teach them a tad bit of humility, at the very least.

And you are right, they outright rejected the point. It is obvious the didn't miss the point, but got it and outright rejected it.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
29. ole miss football is currently ranked 24 in the nation..
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:36 PM
Oct 2013

would be nice to see the NCAA send them a message and keep them out of any bowl games.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. People who do that are insecure about their own sexuality.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:43 PM
Oct 2013

Who is more likely to have same-sex contact with non-family members outside a sexual context than a footballer. Maybe doctors or nurses. But somehow the context is so different that the insecurity about sexuality isn't such an issue.

Wrestling is another sport the involves a lot of same-sex contact.

Don't misunderstand what I am saying. I'm not suggesting that people who wrestle or play football are attracted to their own sex. I'm just saying that they have more physical, close physical touching of people of their own sex than other people. Hence the insecurity.

Not being able to relax and sit quietly at a play about Matthew Shephard indicates a lot of sexual insecurity to me. In addition, they were in a group. Hence the need to show their peers just how macho they are.

Do some (not all) guys play football to prove that they are men, that they are macho.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
33. It's no mistake
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:54 PM
Oct 2013

why Ole' Miss is currently ranked #24 in NCAA football and #150 in the Best College rankings.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
58. Err...what are you trying to say here?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:20 PM
Oct 2013

You do realize that racist humor uses primates to depict black people, right?

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
61. "You do realize that racist humor uses primates to depict black people, right?"
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:27 PM
Oct 2013

I forgot about that. Didn't even enter my mind.

I was using primates to depict racist-anti-gay human ugly bags of mostly water.
Didn't mean any disrespect to our Forefathers/Sisters . (aka Africa)

 

geologic

(205 posts)
67. Er, what are YOU trying to say here--
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 08:00 PM
Oct 2013

you do realize that people (of all colors) are primates too, right???...

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
48. the response from ole miss
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:40 PM
Oct 2013


While we work to determine with certainty who disrupted the Laramie Project play, we want everyone within our university community and beyond to know that we strongly condemn the behavior exhibitedTuesday night. As a member of the Ole Miss family, each of us has a responsibility to be accountable for our actions, and these individuals will be held accountable. Our investigation will determine the degree to which any and all students were involved.

As a first step to addressing behavior at the performance Tuesday night, we will meet today with the freshman student-athletes (from various sports) who attended the play and have a dialogue about what happened, about our university-wide commitment to inclusivity and civility, and about the important role they play in representing the university. It is clear that some students badly misrepresented the culture of this university. From there, we will work with Student-Affairs and the Bias Incident Response Team to determine the facts and appropriate next steps.

Incidents like this remind all educators that our job is to prepare our students to be leaders in life during their years on campus and after they graduate from Ole Miss. This behavior by some students reflects poorly on all of us, and it reinforces our commitment to teaching inclusivity and civility to young people who still have much to learn. We will be engaging our student-athletes with leaders on the subject of individuality and tolerance, so we can further enforce life lessons and develop them to their fullest potential.

On behalf of our 22,000 students, our faculty, and our staff, we apologize.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
51. But most of all ... they apologize on behalf of the revenues generated by their athletic program.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:51 PM
Oct 2013



They anticipate revenues of more than $70 Million this year alone.
Bet your sweet ass their coaches will be hitting the airwaves with
mutiple apologies. But I'd bet they will start off with the GOP type
of apology (if anyone was offended) until someone with a more
alert mind puts them on the right track.

Link: http://www.footballscoop.com/news/10760-take-a-peek-inside-the-finances-of-an-sec-athletic-department

agentS

(1,325 posts)
72. About Ole Miss? Nope, not in the slightest.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 02:04 AM
Oct 2013

You never hear about this sorta thing at Mississippi State or Jackson State. It's ALWAYS Ole Miss.
The Rebs are rebels from common sense.
See the ESPN 30 for 30: Ghosts of Ole Miss.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
50. they should all flunk the class
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:41 PM
Oct 2013

which will affect ole miss's overall academic progress for athletics.
which can result in ncaa sanctions

libodem

(19,288 posts)
54. FN ignorant
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:01 PM
Oct 2013

Immature and undereducated. Sometimes that behavior can be reshaped. And sometimes FN idiots are lost causes. Hope they are capable of developing some maturity and empathy.


The Matthew Shepard story is is horribly brutal and sad.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
55. the hate of all types
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:03 PM
Oct 2013

that has reared it's ugly head over the last 5-6 years is what was there ALL THE TIME. Now it seems, the teahadist and hateful RW'ers have given this large subculture of bigots and racists all the excuse they need to openly reveal the hateful underbelly of our democracy. How sad for them to have to live a life that will sooner or later, destroy them. Extreme hate in ones life is not healthy for ones body and mind. So if they choose to remain ignorant, hateful and backward their sicknesses will be their own undoing and GOOD RIDDANCE! Adios and you ain't an amigo.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
64. Aw, you're just jealous.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:54 PM
Oct 2013

The SEC wins the national title for seven years in a row.

(I'm a Univ. of Tennessee alum).

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
63. Matthew Shepard was not murdered on UW's campus.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 07:49 PM
Oct 2013

WTF? Maybe I'm nitpicking because I lived in Laramie when he was murdered, but that seems really sloppy shitty writing.

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