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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:17 PM Oct 2013

Why Conservatives Are Saying Obamacare Could Take Your House

The health insurance exchanges created by the Affordable Care Act opened for business on Tuesday, allowing uninsured Americans to buy subsidized coverage. By Wednesday, conservative websites had a fresh conspiracy theory running: if you decline to purchase health insurance, the feds may put a lien on your home.

InfoWars cites this Facebook post as proof:


I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 'Silver Plan' and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I 'opt-out' and chose to continue along with no insurance.

I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037 and could be attached to my yearly income tax return. Then you make it to the 'REPERCUSSIONS PORTION' for 'non-payment' of yearly fine. First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid, and if you go 24 consecutive months with 'Non-Payment' and you happen to be a home owner, you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home. You can agree to give your bank information so that they can easy 'Automatically withdraw' your 'penalties' weekly, bi-weekly or monthly! This by no means is 'Free' or even 'Affordable.'


The Affordable Care Act itself states that the IRS cannot file a lien on a property because an uninsured person fails to pay a penalty. Nor can it seize bank accounts or garnish paychecks to recover Obamacare fines. Nor will Americans who refuse to pay for mandatory health insurance be subject to criminal prosecution of any kind.

Infowars acknowledges all this, but concludes that the Facebook poster, Will Sheehan, still might be right: "Either Sheehan’s claim that he received this notice is a lie, or the feds have been dishonest with the American people all along, and the revolt against Obamacare is about to take 'don't tread on me' to a whole new level."

As Obamacare moves from legislation to reality, many of the old conspiracy theories making the chain email rounds will be laid to rest. It seems there will be no shortage of new tin foil hat tales to take their place.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/10/obamacare-conspiracy-theory-lien-house-debunked
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Why Conservatives Are Saying Obamacare Could Take Your House (Original Post) Playinghardball Oct 2013 OP
Obamacare Turbineguy Oct 2013 #1
I won't give Alex Jones the traffic. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #2
Ah ha, this explains what I heard yesterday alsame Oct 2013 #3
There is such a tax, but it will affect very few people. subterranean Oct 2013 #9
Thanks for that info. It definitely does not alsame Oct 2013 #10
Amazing what they can pull out of their collective asses. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #4
It's not that amazing. Aristus Oct 2013 #8
My heavens people are so easily misled. n/t Avalux Oct 2013 #5
Scopes comment on tht subject... Playinghardball Oct 2013 #6
They think Snopes is a liberal site. . B Calm Oct 2013 #11
Will Sheehan lies. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #7
Or it could cause earthquakes! Or a new wave of alien abductions! struggle4progress Oct 2013 #12

alsame

(7,784 posts)
3. Ah ha, this explains what I heard yesterday
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:34 PM
Oct 2013

from a right wing neighbor who watches Fox all day - she said there was an "Obamacare tax" when you sell your house.

I tried to assure her that was not coorect, but she was convinced it was true because they discussed it on Fox

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
9. There is such a tax, but it will affect very few people.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:51 PM
Oct 2013

People with incomes over $200,000 ($250,000 for a couple filing jointly) AND capital gains from their home sale will be subject to a 3.8% tax on the portion of gains ABOVE $250,000, or $500,000 for a couple. So if a couple makes more than $250,000 and sells their home for a profit of $1,000,000, they will have to pay a tax a $19,000.

People hear about rules like this that affect only a handful of the very wealthy, and think they will apply to everyone. I'm sure FOX "News" does nothing to discourage such misconceptions.

Source:
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/a-38-percent-sales-tax-on-your-home/

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
12. Or it could cause earthquakes! Or a new wave of alien abductions!
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:32 PM
Oct 2013

What if the electoral-magmatic field of the planets becomes misaligned and Jupiter crashes into the Great Pyramid, releasing swarms of undead Egyptian mummies who roam the earth to eat our brains?

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