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SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:33 PM Oct 2013

Certainly The Police Were Shooting To Kill

They keep saying NOTHING regarding the condition of the female suspect, although they continue to say that the Child in the car is safe and sound.

I've seen this enough lately to know that this likely means the suspect is probably dead. I imagine we'll get confirmation one way or another in the next couple of hours.

Sadly, if the young child in the car is the suspect's own, they witnessed the death of their parent.

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Certainly The Police Were Shooting To Kill (Original Post) SoCalMusicLover Oct 2013 OP
Yes and very sad that she intentionally put that child it in harm's way. n/t Avalux Oct 2013 #1
We'll see how it all plays out. el_bryanto Oct 2013 #2
Oh, we'll get a story in a couple of hours, that's for sure. 1-Old-Man Oct 2013 #14
Why would someone think they could do that and not get hurt or hurt their child? meadowlark5 Oct 2013 #3
Bad meds jberryhill Oct 2013 #4
Yep. Or needs meds. Bet on it. Nay Oct 2013 #9
Depending on the child's age, they may not even be aware of any of it. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2013 #27
She's dead---just got an alert hlthe2b Oct 2013 #5
Msnbc confirms she is dead from sources nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #6
So strange that she'd risk her child by ramming the gate ... polly7 Oct 2013 #7
Well she popped out of the car with a loaded gun, so I don't think this whole thing kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Oct 2013 #13
I've seen conflicting reports as to whether she had a gun. winter is coming Oct 2013 #16
I was just going by early reports. Turns out the only deadly weapon she was using was her car. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #18
Go Up Against Police, You're Gonna Lose SoCalMusicLover Oct 2013 #8
You try to breach the WH security gate malaise Oct 2013 #10
I saw video of a cop carrying the child, on CNN LiberalEsto Oct 2013 #11
If one wants to commit suicide by cop, she chose a great way to do it. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #15
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #19
No, just someone who tries to attack the White House and then geek tragedy Oct 2013 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #21
No, just that she was homicidal. Why did you sign up at DU to whine geek tragedy Oct 2013 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #24
You have every right to be stupid here, nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #26
Oopsie! They got the DU hook! Rex Oct 2013 #29
There's stupid and then there's so stupid it has to be trolling nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #30
True, glad to see the admins on high alert. Rex Oct 2013 #31
So tell me...what do you think the police should have done in this situation? maddezmom Oct 2013 #23
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Cops always shoot to kill, that is their policy. Rex Oct 2013 #17
Shooting To Kill SoCalMusicLover Oct 2013 #32
Kind of hard to go for a leg wound when you're shooting at the driver of a speeding car n/t Azathoth Oct 2013 #28

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. We'll see how it all plays out.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:35 PM
Oct 2013

So much stuff coming in and out we won't really know the story for quite a while.

Bryant

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
14. Oh, we'll get a story in a couple of hours, that's for sure.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:31 PM
Oct 2013

But do you honestly think that the story we get will in much of any way resemble a factual account of events? and who will tell the story? Will news reporters delve into facts and find witnesses or will they clamor around police officials and then echo the news conference they were provided? And before you answer ask yourself, which of those two do you see most often these days?

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
3. Why would someone think they could do that and not get hurt or hurt their child?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:35 PM
Oct 2013

I know people are angry and desperate - but really, trying to get to the president or anyone in congress? It's impossible. You're on the losing end here.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
9. Yep. Or needs meds. Bet on it.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:47 PM
Oct 2013

I would say 'poor kid,' but I don't know. This may be a blessing in disguise if the parent was this messed up. Horrible to say, but there it is.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
27. Depending on the child's age, they may not even be aware of any of it.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

For that matter, no one knows yet if it was even her child.

As usual, after the dust settles we'll have a clearer story.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
7. So strange that she'd risk her child by ramming the gate ...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:44 PM
Oct 2013

is it possible she panicked and lost control after being chased, or have I got the sequence wrong.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
12. Well she popped out of the car with a loaded gun, so I don't think this whole thing
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:17 PM
Oct 2013

was some simple misunderstanding.

Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #12)

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
16. I've seen conflicting reports as to whether she had a gun.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:33 PM
Oct 2013

Hopefully, they'll get things sorted out in a few hours.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
18. I was just going by early reports. Turns out the only deadly weapon she was using was her car.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:56 PM
Oct 2013

You act like this at the WH and the Capitol, wild car chase all over DC, YOU'RE GONNA WIND UP SHOT.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
8. Go Up Against Police, You're Gonna Lose
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:47 PM
Oct 2013

These days, police don't even always require a sound reason to shoot someone dead.

But give them a solid reason, like trying to ram the White House gates, and you should pretty much expect this result.

Hope this was intentional on her part, because the result is her child(assuming), will now grow up without a mother.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
11. I saw video of a cop carrying the child, on CNN
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:58 PM
Oct 2013

Child is a little girl, about 3 or 4, seemed uninjured from what I saw. Whew.

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #15)

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #20)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. No, just that she was homicidal. Why did you sign up at DU to whine
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:05 PM
Oct 2013

about someone getting killed for trying to run over police after trying to attack the white house?

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #22)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
31. True, glad to see the admins on high alert.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 05:25 PM
Oct 2013

The Teabaggery freakout over the ACA is bringing them out of the woodworks imo.

Response to maddezmom (Reply #23)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Cops always shoot to kill, that is their policy.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:35 PM
Oct 2013

I don't understand why this situation would be any different? Maybe because of a child in the car?

BUT they always shoot to kill.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
32. Shooting To Kill
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 06:18 PM
Oct 2013

It may very well have been warranted in this situation, but the mindset that "they always shoot to kill," is pretty sad.

Police are not supposed to shoot to kill unless their lives or someone else's life is in danger. Certainly applicable in this case, but not ALWAYS, as you imply.

In this day and age though, I think cops pretty much feel they have the right to shoot to kill. Same thing that Zimmerman got away with, by claiming he was in danger. It's often an excuse to justify an otherwise negligent killing of an unarmed suspect.

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