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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:45 PM Oct 2013

Breaking News; Rumor control.

If this shooting at the Capitol ends up being a serious news story, I'd ask that people be cautious in what they post before things are verified. Based on past experiences, initial reports in these types of breaking news stories (shootings, terrorist acts) typically are very inaccurate.

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Breaking News; Rumor control. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 OP
Amen Tommy JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #1
I agree. HappyMe Oct 2013 #2
Wilco. LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #3
+1000 Peacetrain Oct 2013 #4
. hedgehog Oct 2013 #5
Too many ready to "jump the gun". Oddly they don't seem to care about being embarassed. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #6
I don't know... Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #7
I agree completely. This is serious, and jokes I'm seeing here are not appropriate. n/t Avalux Oct 2013 #8
I only marvel how unstable this country has become. Barack_America Oct 2013 #9
Many of us have been talking of this for a long time nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #13
One prediction though nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #10
Yeah, nobody here has ever dealt with anything like this before. Your concern is noted. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #11
First stories: sofa king Oct 2013 #12
More stories: sofa king Oct 2013 #22
But it's so much more fun to blame our political opponents!! B2G Oct 2013 #14
Looks like you are wrong Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #17
Explain B2G Oct 2013 #19
Pete Williams is claiming it started at the White House BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #15
That was a bad choice, going East. sofa king Oct 2013 #20
On a normal day. With everything closed and Federal workers away, traffic must be FSogol Oct 2013 #21
Definitely. sofa king Oct 2013 #23
Too late JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #16
People do that nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #18
That doesn't sound like nearly as much fun as wild speculation and blaming people I don't like el_bryanto Oct 2013 #24

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
1. Amen Tommy
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:47 PM
Oct 2013

I'm seeing a lot of accusations flying when there is a good chance that people are in danger. Serious danger.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
4. +1000
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:48 PM
Oct 2013

People being human and excitable.. (which we all are from time to time) usually the first reports are nearly always wrong.. wait.. breathe..good advice for us all

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
6. Too many ready to "jump the gun". Oddly they don't seem to care about being embarassed.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:48 PM
Oct 2013

Further, unsubstantiated rumors and accusations can destroy reputations and damage lives.

I like to think DU is more reality-based, fact-oriented, than other forum sites.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Many of us have been talking of this for a long time
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013

And have been told we're nuts.

I fear we are far from hitting bottom though

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
12. First stories:
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/03/20805397-us-capitol-placed-on-lockdown?lite

The United States Capitol was placed on lockdown Thursday afternoon following reports of shots fired in the vicinity of the chamber. At least one Capitol Police officer was injured.

The FBI was responding to the scene, and a helicopter landed in front of the Capitol. A message from the Capitol Police ordered anyone in a House office to "shelter in place."
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/03/breaking-reports-of-shots-fired-on-capitol-hill/

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"SHELTER IN PLACE. Gunshots have been reported on Capitol Hill requiring all occupants in all House Office Buildings to shelter in place. Close, lock and stay away from external doors and windows. Take annunciators, Go Kits and escape hoods; and move to the innermost part of the office away from external doors or windows. If you are not in your office, take shelter in the nearest office, check in with your OEC and wait for USCP to clear the incident. No one will be permitted to enter or exit the building until directed by USCP. All staff should monitor the situation. Further information will be provided as it becomes available."

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If this is a parent with a sick child, a combat veteran denied VA resources, or something similar, it could be really bad. Watch the Speaker's Office try to control the message if that's the case.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
22. More stories:
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:26 PM
Oct 2013
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/10/03/u-s-capitol-on-lockdown-after-reports-of-shooting/

According to law enforcement sources, the incident may have started when someone tried to ram the gate at the White House before fleeing 16 blocks to the Capitol building.

A female gunman was reportedly dead on the scene and the lockdown has been lifted.

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http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/10/03/report-shots-heard-outside-u-s-capitol/

The incident started down Pennsylvania Avenue, when a woman tried to ram her car through a White House gate, multiple law enforcement sources told NBC News.

Officers pursued the driver to the Capitol, where witnesses heard between three and 15 shots.

...

Rep. Gerry Connolly, who was on the balcony talking to his colleagues, described a “burst” of gunfire from the House side of the Capitol, towards the House office buildings.

“It was like the first volley in a 21-gun salute,” Rep. Matthew Cartwright said, saying it sounded like a “large caliber” weapon. He described hearing about 7 or 8 shots.
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Gunshots in cities are typically misreported and mis-heard as more than actually fired, because echoes off of buildings create a sonic illusion.
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Allow me to point out the irony that this person appears to have blamed the President, but it was Congress that killed her.
 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
14. But it's so much more fun to blame our political opponents!!
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:53 PM
Oct 2013

High speed chase. Baby removed from car. You do the math.

BumRushDaShow

(129,017 posts)
15. Pete Williams is claiming it started at the White House
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

and the individual tried to breach security and then was pursued down to where the shoot-out occurred.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
20. That was a bad choice, going East.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:19 PM
Oct 2013

Trying to ditch the scene by going East on Constitution forces one to pass at least twelve different uniformed police and security forces, including White House, Smithsonian, Treasury, National Park Service, IRS, assorted other Federal Triangle forces, Metro, the Canadian Embassy, Capitol Hill police, Supreme Court security, and the Mashantucket Pequot Tribe's DC headquarters.

On the other hand, taking Constitution is virtually the only way a driver can cover a mile in DC in less than ten minutes. The lights are programmed so that a constant speed of 30 mph (not the posted 25 mph) will hit all the lights, depending on time of day. Doing twice that might be survivable also.

FSogol

(45,485 posts)
21. On a normal day. With everything closed and Federal workers away, traffic must be
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:23 PM
Oct 2013

lighter in DC today.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
16. Too late
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:14 PM
Oct 2013

Folks have already gone all conspiracy theory and are using it as a purity test of credentials at DU.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
24. That doesn't sound like nearly as much fun as wild speculation and blaming people I don't like
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:29 PM
Oct 2013

Probably the right thing to do though.

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