Thank Tea baggers and NRA Our government is now on lockdown

[gopiscrap]

this is so fucked up.....and these tea bagging fucking clowns are to blame!

[JustAnotherGen]

1. Can you explain that

How are they to blame? We don't really know what's going on right now.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

3. I can guess what's going on with 95% confidence.

A grass roots shock troop is taking matters into his own hands.

[gopiscrap]

6. yup that's my assumption also!

[JustAnotherGen]

26. I'd rather wait and see

Yesterday we had a situation like this down in Pt. Pleasant (schools on lockdown) and it turned out to be a domestic violence dispute).

[Pretzel_Warrior]

2. Definitely. They want revolution. They want blood in American streets.

Reallly sick. If demographics are going against your party and ideology, I guess fomenting revolution is the next logical step.

[C_U_L8R]

4. The wingers are screaming FALSE FLAG all over twitter

What a bunch of paranoid freaks.
Not a single bit of intelligence between the whole lot of them.

[gopiscrap]

7. no shit

[Pretzel_Warrior]

12. That's the only way they can defend all the RW nut jobs shooting the place up

Say it is "false flag op" to smear wingers.

[Wounded Bear]

5. Yeah, this has "2nd Amendment Solution" written all over it...

Hard not to jump to conclusions.

[gopiscrap]

8. no shit, I'd be surprised if it wasn't

[SomethingFishy]

10. Yeah they are probably protesting that their 2nd amendment

rights are being violated... as they take shots at the Capitol Building...

[B2G]

9. Jesus, it's DC

Chances are the perp doesn't even know about the shutdown. I mean, it just couldn't be anything except politically motivated, right?

Just because we live and breathe politics doesn't mean the vast majority of citizens (especially criminals) do.

Get a grip. I'm now hearing something about a baby being removed from a car. Domestic dispute?

[DragonBorn]

13. Seriously?

Claiming that the NRA is to be blamed for this is just as hysterical as the right wingers claiming False Flag!! Some of you need to get a grip on reality, its embarrassing.

[gopiscrap]

16. Welcome to DU, but I disagree

there's a lot of heat and hate out there right now...

[gopiscrap]

18. Pete Willimas just said that it started at the White House as a gate ramming incident

sounds political to me...congressman just said on MSNBC that it was a high powered gun.

[DragonBorn]

23. So your telling me

that the NRA and the tea party put this person up to it? Because thats what the thread implies and what I was responding to. How about it was a crazy person. I'm betting money on it being just a crazy person and not some wide spread conspiracy.

[gopiscrap]

25. nope but what I am saying is that with the constant barrage

of teaparty propaganda and NRA propaganda along with their success in getting rid of the civility in our national discourse, they set the tone for some one to take it to heart.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

14. Uh. Yeah. Right.

[B2G]

17. Well who am I to argue with someone who

has been so spot on consistently right on so many things?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

19. I have, actually. Shooting incident started at WH ended with shooting at Capitol .

Hmmmmm.....sounds like random event unrelated to politics to me!

[Pretzel_Warrior]

19. I have, actually. Shooting incident started at WH ended with shooting at Capitol .

Hmmmmm.....sounds like random event unrelated to politics to me!

[bunnies]

11. Theyre CELEBRATING.

Look at the fucking comments here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/03/us-capitol-in-lockdown-reports-shots-fired/

The hate rolls in real-time.

[mwrguy]

15. Even if it's not a political shooting, the NRA keeps our streets flooded with guns

And their core constituency is tebaggers.

[DragonBorn]

21. Sure.

Yes the NRA frequently hands out guns for free to gangbangers and Wayne La Pierre drives around droping guns on street corners for kids to find.

Doesn't matter that about 30% - 40% of Democratics own guns... We should kick them out of the party!!

[Blue_Tires]

22. Now that you mention it...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023729719

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12621591

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014504085

[mac56]

24. scorch!

[DragonBorn]

27. Misleading

All those people who received guns would have had to pass a background checks. They weren't giving them out without asking questions or giving them to kids. It would be the same as those people buying a firearm but those groups subsidized the cost. Please try again to show how the NRA or tea party caused this.

[gopiscrap]

30. bullshit there's lots of way to get a gun with out a background check

[DragonBorn]

32. That's not the point

Unless your trying to tell me that these groups did not run background checks on the individuals receiving the guns, because I can assure you they did. If you have proof otherwise please post it.

There are only two ways to obtain a gun (legally, stealing doesn't count) without a background check.

The only ways to avoid a background check is either is a private transfer between parties that live in the same state or by gifting a gun from one individual to anther.

Private transfers dont have to verify that the recipient is a non felon but cannot know they they are a felon. Private sellers do have to verify they live in the same state.

Gifting operates the same way, but if you give away a firearm you better be damn sure their not a felon because the case can easily be made if you know someone well enough to give them a $200+ item you should know if their a felon or not.

If you think their are more way to obtain a firearm without a background check, please list them here for all of us.

[The Straight Story]

28. Hmmm, no weapon found

And I am sure DC has gun laws that the lady would have obeyed anyway - but they need more traffic laws and such for cars since she tried to use it as a weapon.

WASHINGTON (KABC) -- The U.S. Capitol has been placed on lockdown after shots were fired outside the building. A female suspect has been killed, a source told ABC News.

A source told ABC News that initial reports were that someone tried to ram the gate at the White House, and then fled to Capitol Hill. There was a short pursuit, and shots were fired. It's unclear if the suspect or officers fired the shots.

Still have reports coming in, so maybe someone did use a gun other than government employees.

Edit: As I said, reports still coming in, here is another take:

NBCWashington ?@nbcwashington 6m

Female driver who had rammed White House gate then drove to Cap Hill, exited her car, started shooting, then was herself shot.

- So we still don't have a clear picture, let alone who should be blamed (obviously not the shooter/driver, responsibility should be on others who guns, guns, organizations, etc. If she didn't use a gun then we can look at causes and such....)

[Generic Other]

29. Why does that sound like sarah palin?

[gopiscrap]

31. No kidding

[Dreamer Tatum]

33. Would that be the National Riding Association?

I am not seeing where a gun was involved. Help me out here.

[hack89]

34. Have you considered a career as an Irish step dancer?

your knees jerk at an amazing speed.