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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:25 PM Oct 2013

Biker injured in NYC clash with SUV hires celebrity attorney Gloria Allred



A motorcyclist who may be paralyzed after being run over during a clash between bikers and a Range Rover on a New York City highway has hired high-profile lawyer Gloria Allred.

Edwin “Jay” Mieses, 33, is in critical condition with a crushed spine, two broken legs and other injuries from Sunday’s confrontation, captured on a viral video that has drawn more than 4 million hits on YouTube.

"There's no hope for his back," his wife, Dayana Meises, told reporters on Tuesday. "They broke it in two different places, so he will be forever, forever paralyzed."

The family issued a statement on Wednesday night asking for privacy and announcing it had hired Allred, a media-savvy Los Angeles lawyer who usually specializes in women rights and sexual harassment cases.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/02/20783272-biker-injured-in-nyc-clash-with-suv-hires-celebrity-attorney-gloria-allred?lite
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Biker injured in NYC clash with SUV hires celebrity attorney Gloria Allred (Original Post) apples and oranges Oct 2013 OP
The biker didn't he is in a coma. The family might have. newcriminal Oct 2013 #1
And the case is a loser. Allred is doing this for publicity. Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #2
based on post 7 , there is question whether this is real JI7 Oct 2013 #8
is he going to be charged for riding without a license ? JI7 Oct 2013 #3
it's a personal injury recovery that they are looking for Supersedeas Oct 2013 #21
Yes its a Civil Case warrant46 Oct 2013 #32
Well that is interesting. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #4
Said it twenty four hours ago, I hope the real victim has an umbella policy that covers his legal NotThisTime Oct 2013 #5
he may want to hire his own counsel--insurance defense stops at the policy limits Supersedeas Oct 2013 #13
Not in Illinois AngryAmish Oct 2013 #17
Is "hires" the right word here?...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #6
In the interest of accuracy ... CDub58 Oct 2013 #7
Maybe NBC News is wrong (the link is to NBC News). Lex Oct 2013 #9
Do you really think that she would miss out on this? Supersedeas Oct 2013 #18
Welcome to DU Fumesucker Oct 2013 #10
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #11
The idiots supporting him probably thought she's the best lawyer to get.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #14
this does not sound like her kind of case. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #24
May this outlaw's careless and lawless behavior and the tragic consequences of it serve some purpose NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #12
These morons think they hit a winning lottery ticket ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #16
what a crew: Nancy Grace, Banfield, Allred and this guy's mom Supersedeas Oct 2013 #19
That video's gonna really fuck up his "case". Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #20
This video is going to win the case for him easily. ieoeja Oct 2013 #22
Not when there are dozens upon dozens of people waiting to kill you you wouldn't. duffyduff Oct 2013 #23
I watched the FULL video on another site this morning. Your post is incorrect. MH1 Oct 2013 #25
all the videos of their irresponsible actions on the bikes will be entered at trial TeamPooka Oct 2013 #27
Oh yeah...piece of cake BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #28
Wrong. The whole scenario is the fault of the riders... bluesbassman Oct 2013 #29
as a 30 year motorcycle rider RedstDem Oct 2013 #30
I disagree. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #31
She sees big dollar signs Marrah_G Oct 2013 #26
This kind of thing is her core competency. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #33
I wish I could be a juror, that sob wouldn't get a damn dime. I hope they counter sue the bastard! B Calm Oct 2013 #34
NY family at center of SUV chase by motorcyclists say they faced life threatening situation JI7 Oct 2013 #35
 

Buddha_of_Wisdom

(373 posts)
2. And the case is a loser. Allred is doing this for publicity.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:29 PM
Oct 2013

Sorry, Allred - the video is out there, and it's clear that the biker is very guilty.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
8. based on post 7 , there is question whether this is real
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 11:47 PM
Oct 2013

another poster said she was just admitted to the NY bar so i can see her wanting to take on something big which she usually does to help her with future cases.

but this isn't the type of case she usually takes.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
3. is he going to be charged for riding without a license ?
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:31 PM
Oct 2013

and can those other videos be used against him of running red lights and other violations ?

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
32. Yes its a Civil Case
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 03:34 PM
Oct 2013

Everything is admissible including the work record of the rider.

From what I understand Michael Jackson's mother's attorney is Now Available also

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
4. Well that is interesting.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:57 PM
Oct 2013

I was surprised to see this because I did not think Gloria was a member of the NY bar. But, she was sworn in 8 days ago.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
17. Not in Illinois
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:16 AM
Oct 2013

(NY may be different). In IL an insurance company has two obligations: the duty to defend and the duty to indemnify. Even if the policy is tendered and they are going after a person's personal assets they still have to provide a defense. Practically, going after personal assets is a mugs game so in exchange for the insurance policy limits a full release is necessary. Plus if the initial policy is tendered the excess carrier will step in to defend.

Insurance coverage law make my head sore.

CDub58

(1 post)
7. In the interest of accuracy ...
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 11:43 PM
Oct 2013

I ask the editor of this article to confirm with Gloria Allred that she is in fact representing Jay Meezee. While it may be true, I haven’t found any confirming statements from either Gloria Allred or her firm, which seems a bit odd to me, given the high visibility of this incident. I did see a few similar statements online, but they were made by Mr. Meezee’s supporters. Also, it's interesting that the same claim was made on the Justice for Jay Meezee Facebook page earlier today, but the post was quickly changed to remove that claim.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
9. Maybe NBC News is wrong (the link is to NBC News).
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 11:50 PM
Oct 2013

It wouldn't be the first time they misreported. Sounds like Allred, though.





ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. The idiots supporting him probably thought she's the best lawyer to get....
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:10 AM
Oct 2013

....to extract money from people.

Next they'll probably try to call Perry Mason.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
12. May this outlaw's careless and lawless behavior and the tragic consequences of it serve some purpose
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:02 AM
Oct 2013

I can think of no good that can come from this except that other bikers learn to give up the practice of rude reckless riding (though I doubt it).

Maybe their family members will badger them into quitting (I kind of doubt that too).

And maybe the city and state police will but a stop to these ridiculous and dangerous Hollywood Stuntz type events.

....

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
15. These morons think they hit a winning lottery ticket
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:11 AM
Oct 2013

They are gonna muck it up as best they can and sue the shit out of everyone.

Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
22. This video is going to win the case for him easily.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:56 AM
Oct 2013

http://www.rightthisminute.com//video/biker-speaks-out-biker-suv-incident-nyc

It shows one angry person yanking the door open. All other bikers are either sitting beside their bikes or, like the paralyzed man, on the ground in front of the SUV helping the original accident victim.

Only one person approaches the SUV. The "surrounded by 20 to 30 people" happens long after the SUV paralyzes the victim.

Nobody is denting the SUV. That happens long after the SUV paralyzes the victim.

Nobody is threatening the SUV driver. That happens long after the SUV paralyzes the victim.

Why the SUV driver is not already in jail, I do not know. Unless the police have simply not seen this video of what happened BEFORE the riders chased down the driver.


Had I been driving that SUV, I would have been the first person out the door checking on the downed rider.
 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
23. Not when there are dozens upon dozens of people waiting to kill you you wouldn't.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:03 PM
Oct 2013

Please stop making excuses for these thugs.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
25. I watched the FULL video on another site this morning. Your post is incorrect.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:06 PM
Oct 2013

From the very beginning of the FULL video, the bikers have the SUV surrounded as they travel down the road, then one of the bikers (Cruz, who has been charged) clearly instigates the altercation.

What happened before, who knows. Did the SUV driver cut one of them off or something? If so, was it intentional? But in any case, to that point no one was physically injured, and the bikers had no justification for instigating a confrontation.

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
27. all the videos of their irresponsible actions on the bikes will be entered at trial
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:08 PM
Oct 2013

not just the 30 seconds that biker likes.
Funny thing happens when people see a lot of video, they get context and will see these guys were terrorizing the populace

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
29. Wrong. The whole scenario is the fault of the riders...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 12:23 PM
Oct 2013

First, what the were engaged in was an illegal activity. Not only were they purposefully impeding traffic in setting up a "sideshow", but they were doing it using non-street legal vehicles. Second, they had the SUV surround when the sportbike rider did a "brake check" inches from the SUV causing his own accident. It was at this point that the other riders initially attacked the SUV, including slashing it's tires. Only an idiot would have exited that vehicle under those conditions, and his next move to remove himself and family from danger was 100% justified.

I don't know what your agenda is in this case, but as a 40+ year motorcycle rider, I condemn the actions of the riders involved in this, not the victim in the SUV.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
35. NY family at center of SUV chase by motorcyclists say they faced life threatening situation
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

The family of the SUV driver involved in the bizarre motorcycle incident Sunday in New York that left a Lawrence man hospitalized with serious injuries today released a statement, saying they feared for their lives and were forced to take the actions they did.

“Our sympathies go out to the injured motorcyclist and his family,” the statement said, which was released by Alexian Lien’s lawyers, Nicholas J. Massimo and Frank C. Panetta. “We were faced with a life-threatening situation, and my husband was forced under the circumstances to take the actions that he did in order to protect the lives of our entire family.’’

Lawrence resident Edwin “Jay” Mieses Jr., 32, who was riding one of dozens of motorcycles on the Henry Hudson Parkway Sunday afternoon, sustained two broken legs and other injuries after being run over by the SUV, police and his family have said.

Lien, his wife, and their 2-year-old daughter were planning a day out to celebrate their wedding anniversary. Instead, they were surrounded by a “mob of reckless and violent motorcyclists,” the statement said.

The family explains that they felt they were in grave danger, and said they believe anyone in their situation would have taken the same actions.

“We would like to thank the brave citizens who risked their own safety to intervene on our behalf,” the statement said. “They truly helped save our lives and prevented my husband from suffering further injury. We also appreciate and are moved by the outpouring of love and support so many have expressed here in New York and around the country.”


http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/10/03/family-center-suv-chase-motorcyclists-say-they-faced-life-threatening-situation/1oVf2pqfPokRmV1nyZG8fN/story.html

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