Chris Hayes is disappointing when debating with republican mouth-speakers.

[bluestate10]

He just let Judd Gregg bully him while lying about democrats holding the nation hostage while trying to extract policy initiatives. Hayes does that strange laugh instead of ripping Gregg's fucking throat apart with logic and facts. Yet he doesn't let Barney Frank, who can and does shred republican bullshit talk without interrupting.

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Hayes is weak. n/t

[rl6214]

4. Chris Hayes has always been a disappointment and entirely too weak to put into

An otherwise strong lineup, with the exception of maybe tweety.

[Mass]

2. Yes, he makes the error to think people want and intelligent dialogue and not

a copy of Fox with left-leaning hosts.

Sadly, he is wrong on that. People love yelling people who just spout talking points. We are no different than the GOP.

[winter is coming]

3. I detest shouting matches on either side.

O/T, I'm loving the graphic Chris has up now of Paul Ryan sitting on a bar graph "mansplaining" things in his baseball cap.

[Peregrine Took]

5. To be a really powerful pundit (like Ed or Pap) you can't be a nice guy. n/t

[Blaukraut]

6. And now he has Kudlow on to spout his nonsense. Who needs FOX news? n/t

[Justice]

7. Hayes needs to state that what Obama wants is to fund government for 6 weeks at current levels

They are talking in inside the beltway speak and the soundbites are not helpful.

no clean CR. Must say, need temporary spending bill to open government for 6 weeks at current funding. Allows for discussion.

[kimbutgar]

8. I am mad when he talked about cuts to head start and wic he featured black people

After reading Joan Walsh's article
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/01/the_real_story_of_the_shutdown_50_years_of_gop_race_baiting/

She talked about how fox and the right wingers:

“The principal force which broke up the Democratic (New Deal) coalition is the Negro socioeconomic revolution and liberal Democratic ideological inability to cope with it,” Phillips wrote. “Democratic ‘Great Society’ programs aligned that party with many Negro demands, but the party was unable to defuse the racial tension sundering the nation.” Phillips was not trying to defuse that tension, far from it – he was trying to lure those white ethnics to the GOP (although he later broke with the party he helped create.) But his Northern Strategy truly came to fruition in 1980, with the election of Ronald Reagan. Where Nixon swept the South, Reagan was able to take much of the North and West, too.

And talking about social programs:
It’s the culmination of 50 years of evolving yet consistent Republican strategy to depict government as the enemy, an oppressor that works primarily as the protector of and provider for African-Americans, to the detriment of everyone else. The fact that everything came apart under our first African-American president wasn’t an accident, it was probably inevitable.

Chris just reinforced that cliche when he only showed black women complaining about the lost of head start and wic. Grrr

[bluestate10]

10. I noticed the only Black people too. Blacks talking about having no food, with both women

being overweight. Blacks in a pre-school class. not a single poor White face and I know there are plenty out there. Hayes showed perfect GOP images. Either Hayes and his staff or both are lazy and go for the first image instead of digging deeper. The whole thing made me want to bang my head against a wall.

[itsrobert]

9. Hannity and Hayes

Should be a new Fox News show.

Bring back Ed!