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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:47 PM Mar 2012

Wilmington City Council Passes Resolution Urging 'Personhood' Rights For Sperm

[font size=4]Wilmington City Council Passes Resolution Urging 'Personhood' Rights For Sperm[/font]

The Huffington Post | Luke Johnson | Updated: 03/ 2/2012 3:28 pm



The Wilmington City Council has a message for men -- sperm are people, too. The council for Delaware's largest city passed a resolution by an 8-4 vote Thursday calling on the Delaware legislature, other state legislatures and the U.S. Congress to pass laws granting "personhood" rights to eggs and sperm.

The resolution was authored by councilwoman Loretta Walsh as a protest in the current battle over women's health care access.

"{E}ach 'egg person' and each 'sperm person' should be deemed equal in the eyes of the government and be subject to the same laws and regulations as any other dependent minor and be protected against abuse, neglect or abandonment by the parent or guardian," says the resolution. "{L}aws should be enacted by all legislative bodies in the United States to promote equal representation, and should potentially include laws in defense of 'personhood,' forbidding every man from destroying his semen."

The vote came the same day that the U.S. Senate voted down an amendment that would have given employers the right to refuse any health care service to employees for moral reasons.

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[font color=blue] - Hmmm..... so if this things goes all the way, I wonder how much time a person would get for having a wet dream???[/font]
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Wilmington City Council Passes Resolution Urging 'Personhood' Rights For Sperm (Original Post) DeSwiss Mar 2012 OP
WHICH Wilmington??? elleng Mar 2012 #1
Delaware csziggy Mar 2012 #3
That's what I thought until I saw Loretta Walsh's name LynneSin Mar 2012 #5
Here's a non Huffpo version rucky Mar 2012 #6
Strange, you seem to have forgotten the link to The Onion. FSogol Mar 2012 #2
Just cause there's more of them doesn't make it less of a 'crime' csziggy Mar 2012 #4
LOL. Will the Wilmington Police collect all the tissues as evidence? FSogol Mar 2012 #8
Some places women have been investigated for having miscarriages csziggy Mar 2012 #21
"Found another one chief!" AlbertCat Mar 2012 #76
Loretta Walsh is great city council member and very pro-choice LynneSin Mar 2012 #9
Or, I could have linked to the GOP's website..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #11
I just learned at least 39 million per "shot" according to the WHO targetpractice Mar 2012 #12
I suddenly feel like Hitler. n/t Gore1FL Mar 2012 #62
You've got some work to do... I'm at like Borg level by now. n/t targetpractice Mar 2012 #64
Given your username I can see why. LOL! n/t truth2power Mar 2012 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author targetpractice Mar 2012 #85
Really catrose Mar 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #53
A gaggle of "circle jerks"? eom xtraxritical Mar 2012 #84
which means shooting a wad = mass murder magical thyme Mar 2012 #66
That makes me........ HowHeThinks Mar 2012 #82
That's a lot of Republican votes. aquart Mar 2012 #80
A wet dream would be Manslaughter,... MarianJack Mar 2012 #7
Yeah, that's what I figured too..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #13
conspiracy Go Vols Mar 2012 #51
If a girl geves her boyfriend a hand job,... MarianJack Mar 2012 #60
boner = wmd nt magical thyme Mar 2012 #67
A wet mercuryblues Mar 2012 #35
Genocise,... MarianJack Mar 2012 #61
LOL mercuryblues Mar 2012 #77
Each wet dream would be a genocide worse than 10 holocausts... targetpractice Mar 2012 #10
But think of all the people that have been ''saved'' from worldwide over-population! DeSwiss Mar 2012 #15
Socks & assorted garments as murder weapons. Nocturnal Emissions as involuntary manslaughter. Solly Mack Mar 2012 #14
ROFLMAO!!!! DeSwiss Mar 2012 #17
Sperm banks would either be human trafficking or orphanages. Solly Mack Mar 2012 #23
Awwww..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #43
I think that petroleum smell that was wafting over here from NJ a few days ago woodsprite Mar 2012 #16
I thought it helped one live next to New Jersey..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #18
I love it!!!!!!! Curmudgeoness Mar 2012 #19
Wilmington City Council is uber left wing LynneSin Mar 2012 #25
This could be a boon in the voting booth. kentauros Mar 2012 #20
Yeah, sure okay..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #31
Mail-in Ballot. kentauros Mar 2012 #52
Pure genius etherealtruth Mar 2012 #22
I support this 100% as long as the War on Women continues. kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #26
Til' the bitter end..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #33
it's all a bit much to swallow though. wendylaroux Mar 2012 #27
*snort!* nolabear Mar 2012 #29
Just remember..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #36
I'm amazed that I exist... targetpractice Mar 2012 #28
Well, think of it this way..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #37
Ha! I also get sad for all the sea turtle hatchlings that don't make it. n/t targetpractice Mar 2012 #39
Woody Allen was a prophet! nolabear Mar 2012 #30
I love Woody..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #38
Religious intellectuals will undoubtedly find a way to "save" them all as they come out. saras Mar 2012 #32
Why yes! DeSwiss Mar 2012 #41
Not freeware, "Users are advised to pay attention while installing this ad-supported application" saras Mar 2012 #44
Yeah, now that I look at it more closely it looks pretty crappy. DeSwiss Mar 2012 #46
Eric the half a bee Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #34
Cyril Connelly... nolabear Mar 2012 #40
She covered that..... DeSwiss Mar 2012 #42
The gametes! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #73
Are they having a huge problem Angry Dragon Mar 2012 #45
Yeah. DeSwiss Mar 2012 #47
So each woman gets charged with murder 13 times a year? Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #48
Yes, starting at 12 or 13 or whatever. SwissTony Mar 2012 #69
Every "person" should have a home... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #49
That pic is more like a major metropolitan city than just a home. targetpractice Mar 2012 #50
Finally someone did this! valerief Mar 2012 #54
So one sperm to one egg. All the "wasted" sperm must be salvaged and frozen, else the valerief Mar 2012 #55
Cannibalism convictions projected to skyrocket! Fuddnik Mar 2012 #56
So, Who were the anti-life, supporters of mass murder that voted against the bill? Damn Liberuls. hayrow1 Mar 2012 #57
I've always thought of myself as a pretty nice guy. DCKit Mar 2012 #58
Adolph Hitler got nothing on you! LynneSin Mar 2012 #65
Demand a federal tax allowance for.... JJW Mar 2012 #59
Death Penalty Eatacig Mar 2012 #63
I'm going to keep mine, give them names, and have them apply for food stamps. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 #68
TURN BACK Mendocino Mar 2012 #70
'So masturbation would be child abuse' LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2012 #71
Okay, so how many tax deductions...I mean dependents...does that equate to? n/t cynatnite Mar 2012 #72
Elections would be counted with scientific numbers. nt caseymoz Mar 2012 #74
Will we have to name them? Buh-bye, Rocko, Ralph, Rudy, Sarah... jtuck004 Mar 2012 #78
Spam deleted by NRaleighLiberal (MIR Team) ghjtydger Mar 2012 #79
DIE SPAMMER!!!!!!! NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #86
oh that's awesome! ibegurpard Mar 2012 #81
Excellent. Why can't we play ALEC and get this to every city council? sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #83

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
3. Delaware
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:53 PM
Mar 2012

"The council for Delaware's largest city passed a resolution by an 8-4 vote Thursday calling on the Delaware legislature, other state legislatures and the U.S. Congress to pass laws granting "personhood" rights to eggs and sperm."

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
2. Strange, you seem to have forgotten the link to The Onion.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:53 PM
Mar 2012


Do they realize that every, um shot of sperm contains 2,000,000 of what they want to call people?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
21. Some places women have been investigated for having miscarriages
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:18 PM
Mar 2012

I think that is why the councilwoman proposed this resolution - to highlight the absurdity.

I can't imagine a woman having a miscarriage of desired pregnancy and then have to defend herself for the 'crime' of losing her baby. But that is where we seem to be headed.

So if men can be brought to realize that somethings are not up for control of their government, maybe they will start really thinking about what they are trying to do to women.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
9. Loretta Walsh is great city council member and very pro-choice
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:57 PM
Mar 2012

She pissed at all this 'egg as personhood' bullshit.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. Or, I could have linked to the GOP's website.....
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:01 PM
Mar 2012

...that's pretty much the same thing as The Onion, right? Bizarre BS put forth in all seriousness?



Response to truth2power (Reply #75)

Response to catrose (Reply #24)

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
7. A wet dream would be Manslaughter,...
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:56 PM
Mar 2012

...masturbation would be first degree murder. Iw would be several million counts so the whacker would be a mass murderer.

I'd have earned about 100 trillion life sentences when I was 13 alone!

PEACE!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
13. Yeah, that's what I figured too.....
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:04 PM
Mar 2012

...involuntary manslaughter.

- So I guess that would make a boner attempted murder.....

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
60. If a girl geves her boyfriend a hand job,...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:45 PM
Mar 2012

...would she be an accessory, an accomplice or what?

PEACE! (or maybe in this context, PIECE!?)

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
35. A wet
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:22 AM
Mar 2012

a wet dream would be genocide. Can you see all the war crime tribunals now. Men would not make it past puberty.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
61. Genocise,...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:48 PM
Mar 2012

...and Monica Lewinski's dress would have been a killing field.

PEACE! (or, in this context, PIECE!?)

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
77. LOL
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 12:47 PM
Mar 2012

A blow job would result in the giver being an accomplice. Warrents issued to 'recover' the evidence. Stomachs pumped, evidence sent to crime labs. Now I see where the jobs are.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
15. But think of all the people that have been ''saved'' from worldwide over-population!
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:07 PM
Mar 2012
- Which would make this a great argument for masturbation.....

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
14. Socks & assorted garments as murder weapons. Nocturnal Emissions as involuntary manslaughter.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:06 PM
Mar 2012

Premature ejaculations would be negligent homocide.


Tampons and pads would deserve a proper burial. Have to bury the socks, sheets etc. as well.

My, my, my.



Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
23. Sperm banks would either be human trafficking or orphanages.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:23 PM
Mar 2012

Either you're selling little people or you're keeping them safe for adoption.

Probably will depend on who is running the sperm banks.







 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
18. I thought it helped one live next to New Jersey.....
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:14 PM
Mar 2012

...if they have fried brains. Whoops!

- j/k New Jersians!!!!!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
19. I love it!!!!!!!
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:15 PM
Mar 2012

It's about time that we brought the boys into this silliness.

I am still laughing---but I am surprised that they had 8 people on city council willing to vote "yes".

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
22. Pure genius
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:20 PM
Mar 2012

It illustrates the point beautifully ... it will be lost on the right wing knuckle draggers and other cerebrally challenged ... but it certainly highlights the absurdity of of many of the proposed right wing laws

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
28. I'm amazed that I exist...
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:00 AM
Mar 2012

I believe that I exist due the the mind-bogglingly random and once-in-a-universe happenstance that a particular sperm and egg met forty something years ago... resulting in a unique zygote that ultimately became who I am today. I have no clue when my former zygote or fetus self became sentient or acquired a "soul", but I realize that I am here because I was lucky enough to avoid any "interruptions" along the way (e.g., lost in masturbation, failed fertilization, abortion, miscarriage, or being hit by a bus much later).

I am an atheist, but I do feel "blessed" to be a person who came to be from a one-time ever happenstance. Sometimes thinking like this can lead me to become overwhelmed by the "persons" who never had the chance to be. But, that's how human biology works. And, absolutely nobody has the right to force a woman to be pregnant if she doesn't want to be.



Upon edit: I want to change the word "blessed" above to something like "extraordinarily humbled"... Whenever I use the word "blessed" as an atheist... I mean extremely fortunate not divinely favored.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
37. Well, think of it this way.....
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:34 AM
Mar 2012

...all those unborn egg-persons and sperm-persons were most likely born on other planets.

- Far, far way.......

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
32. Religious intellectuals will undoubtedly find a way to "save" them all as they come out.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:19 AM
Mar 2012

They all go to heaven, no problem. Wank away, men.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
41. Why yes!
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:42 AM
Mar 2012

They even have a freeware program to help teach em' how to save them errant sperms!!!


Catch the Sperm II 1.0.2.67

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
44. Not freeware, "Users are advised to pay attention while installing this ad-supported application"
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:51 AM
Mar 2012

Pretty damned funny, though. I'd hate to see these come around a corner in a war game. "Oh shit. Now we're REALLY fucked."

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
46. Yeah, now that I look at it more closely it looks pretty crappy.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:01 AM
Mar 2012

I don't know anything about it I just Googled "save the sperm" and there it was.

- It looks like Adware which it always more trouble than it's worth. Not to mention the malware some of them have. Eesh!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
42. She covered that.....
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:44 AM
Mar 2012

...by making the resolution applicable to both ''egg-persons'' AND ''sperm-persons.''

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
45. Are they having a huge problem
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:58 AM
Mar 2012

with men leaving splashes on their sidewalks??
Something like no spitting ......... just wondering

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
48. So each woman gets charged with murder 13 times a year?
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:11 AM
Mar 2012

For thirteen menstrual periods (lunar months of 28 days)????
For every year of her menstruating life? Forty or more years?




valerief

(53,235 posts)
55. So one sperm to one egg. All the "wasted" sperm must be salvaged and frozen, else the
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:07 AM
Mar 2012

ejaculator faces prison time.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
58. I've always thought of myself as a pretty nice guy.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:28 AM
Mar 2012

Now I find out I'm a mass murderer on a scale bigger than our national debt.

 

Eatacig

(97 posts)
63. Death Penalty
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:59 PM
Mar 2012

So I guess this would end the death penalty. Just think of all the babies they would be killing.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
78. Will we have to name them? Buh-bye, Rocko, Ralph, Rudy, Sarah...
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 10:13 PM
Mar 2012

Or maybe a less gender specific way. Wiggly 1, Wiggly 2...

With average ejaculations of, say, 1 to 5 ml, and tens to a hundreds million or so of sperm per ml, would that be a separate count for each one? We would all die in the courtroom waiting on the reading of the charges...

What if someone gets some in their eye and it causes a wreck? Will they hold the sperm responsible as a separate individual, or could it be seen as gang activity?

Late night comedy folks have to be happy.

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