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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhere the heck did "Pox on both your houses" come from?
'Cause it sure ain't Shakespeare.
This is a "Play it again, Sam" thing... an instance of a misquotation becoming the norm. I have seldom, if ever, heard someone on TV say it correctly.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Elizabethan English, but English none the less.
In a translated work it would be easy to see how some word could be translated variously as plague or pox or pestilence.
There is, however, little mystery as to which word Shakespeare chose to use.
And even if one clung to an updating of Elizabethan English as explanation, it would fail. Pox is antique while plague remains in use today.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)My ex simply could not quote a cliche, she would come out with something that meant the same thing but was definitely not the original words just about every time and it wasn't a deliberate act, it was just the way she thought, the specific words were unimportant but she understood the idea and could convey it in her own words.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
muriel_volestrangler
(101,319 posts)It generally means a disease that leave pockmarks. But the use on its own as syphilis was going by Shakespeare's time, and he does use 'a pox of/on' at least twice. The OED:
1.
a. Any of several infectious diseases characterized by a rash of pustules (pocks), esp. smallpox, cowpox, and chickenpox. See also chickenpox n., cow-pox n., smallpox n.
1476 in C. L. Kingsford Stonor Lett. & Papers (1919) II. 10 The eyre of poxe is ffull contagious.
b. Syphilis. Freq. with distinguishing word, as French, great pox, etc.: see the first element.
1503 in N. H. Nicolas Privy Purse Expenses Elizabeth of York (1830) 105 A surgeon whiche heled him of the Frenche pox.
1529 in Ld. Herbert Henry VIII (1649) 267 The foule, and contagious Disease of the Great Pox.
2.
a. In various imprecations or exclamations of irritation and impatience, as a pox on (also of, take) , O pox, etc. Cf plague n. 5. Now arch.
a1592 R. Greene Frier Bacon (1594) sig. B3v, A poxe of all coniuring Friers.
1598 Shakespeare Love's Labour's Lost v. ii. 46 A Poxe of that iest, and I beshrow all Shrowes.
a1616 Shakespeare All's Well that ends Well (1623) iv. iii. 277 A pox on him, he's a Cat still.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)that plagues were beneficial to people. They realized they had a branding issue with plague, so they rebranded plague to pox in hopes that people would not associate pox with negative things but with positive things. Like more food as your relatives pass away.
The actual phrase comes from the 1694 play "The Good Fairy gives Everybody the Pox" and within that context it's a gift she gives to two particularly nice families.
Bryant
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)of his last speech, which ends with just 'Your houses'.