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mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:42 PM Oct 2013

My son's best friend's brother just died of an overdose

It was heroin, so many of these kids are using it. There is little help for them and what is there is just punitive and stupid because it does little to stop this use or help the people (and their families) who are victms of it. Then we wonder why it is that addicts do not seek help.

This young man is not even 25 and he has been on life support for almost a month with his mother, father, and brothers holding vigil. They were not sure if he had brain injuries that would leave him either a vegetable or unable to walk. He came out of it for a little while but told them he did not want to live that way. So his mother decided to give him his wishes.

I am in tears because there are so many young people I love who use it and I wonder who will be next... Please pray for this family and any others who are living this nightmare!

The war on Drugs SUCKS ...

Cat in Seattle

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My son's best friend's brother just died of an overdose (Original Post) mntleo2 Oct 2013 OP
Aw, I am so sorry for him, his family, your son, you. Is heroin back or still here? uppityperson Oct 2013 #1
Thank you mntleo2 Oct 2013 #6
Still here and growing, sad to say n/t mntleo2 Oct 2013 #17
That is so sad. Use it as a teaching moment. Kids seem to think they are immune and it appleannie1 Oct 2013 #2
Unfortunately ... mntleo2 Oct 2013 #13
I know that. I was talking about the poster's son. Hopefully he can view the event with clear eyes appleannie1 Oct 2013 #19
I am really sorry to hear this sad news... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #3
I know a friend of a friend JesterCS Oct 2013 #4
Addiction makes people spend every dime they have OwnedByCats Oct 2013 #21
There are overdose reversal drugs available. They should be WIDELY available. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #5
I am sure they tried that ... mntleo2 Oct 2013 #9
It sounds like help arrived too late for this young man. Naloxone... Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #18
I'm so sorry for your loss ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #7
I am seeing this too ;( mntleo2 Oct 2013 #11
Oxycodone is nasty stuff. roamer65 Oct 2013 #12
RIP Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #8
Sorry to hear it. roamer65 Oct 2013 #10
Fuck Ron Obvious Oct 2013 #14
The oldest son of my best friend from college went the same way a few years ago.... Rowdyboy Oct 2013 #15
So sorry, Cat. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2013 #16
god bless all of you in this nightmare. :( roguevalley Oct 2013 #20

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
1. Aw, I am so sorry for him, his family, your son, you. Is heroin back or still here?
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:46 PM
Oct 2013

What an awful situation.

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
6. Thank you
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:54 PM
Oct 2013

If there is anything anyone can do it is subscribe to LEAP, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition: http://www.leap.org. these are law enforcement members who get it and are credible people who are working to stop this horror!

Love, Cat

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
2. That is so sad. Use it as a teaching moment. Kids seem to think they are immune and it
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:47 PM
Oct 2013

will not happen to them but it can and does. My heart goes out to the family of that child. Drugs are not the cool thing that many kids are led to believe. It has been a tragedy in a number of families in my community and led to deaths from overdoses, suicide and shootings between drug rivals that pedaled the crap.

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
13. Unfortunately ...
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:10 PM
Oct 2013

Teaching moments do not work well for the users who are in major denial that this can happen to them when it is right in front of their own eyes. They get scared for awhile and then go right back to using it.

The best time is to get them with it BEFORE they ever use it. The anti-smoking campaign has done this well to get kids on board before they use it. They do not think it is cool, wrinkle their noses at the smell, and ridicule users. As a smoker who started as a teen, I am glad!

Love, Cat

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
4. I know a friend of a friend
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:51 PM
Oct 2013

That got a settlement from a car wreck. $130k. Within 2 months it was gone. 2 cars, and the rest of Heroin. Still alive, but now broke and penniless. I'll never get why people spend that much money on drugs

OwnedByCats

(805 posts)
21. Addiction makes people spend every dime they have
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:57 AM
Oct 2013

It can be hard for people to understand when they've not experienced it themselves because it's one of those things that needs to be experienced to fully grasp the addiction's power. I know what it's like on a smaller scale - I was addicted to legal prescription opiates, or as my doctor called it, dependent.

I suffer from chronic headaches/migraines and could never find the cause, and over the counter pain meds did not help, probably a good 70% of the time. I moved to England and was there 10 years. Upon my arrival there it was only a matter of time when I would have my first headache in that country. My husband bought me some ibuprofen and I waited to see if it would work. It worked great! There was never a headache or migraine I could not get rid of with this stuff.

Then I found out why. I never dreamed it was possible, but they mixed ibuprofen with codeine, available over the counter. It was only 12.8 mg per tablet, but it was enough to make a world of difference to me. For 3 years I took it, probably 4-5 times a week. Then I had an impacted wisdom tooth that was excruciating. I had to wait 2 months for an oral surgeon to remove it. In the meantime I was on a drug similar to Vicoden without the Tylenol. Two tablets every four hours or otherwise the pain returned. By the time that was done, the OTC codeine wasn't enough so I stayed on the prescription stuff for my headaches. Within months I began taking the pills every day whether I needed them or not because I was sicker than a dog without them.

My doctor was understanding and patient but it took me 7 years to get off them, mainly because I didn't want to. I was living pain free for the first time in my whole adult life and I was not looking forward to having it back. I was actually happy. It was so hard to give them up I can't even tell you. When I moved back here I stopped because I could no longer find a doctor who would prescribe them to me and I refused to get them another way. I have way too many scruples to buy on the street. That was a dependency.

However, those who are addicted have it so much worse because it makes them want to give up everything just so they are not without it. Nothing else matters. It makes them beg, borrow and steal, they disappoint and upset their loved ones and seem not to care. It makes them selfish. I saw one gentleman on the show "Intervention" who chose to be homeless because that way he could buy more drugs instead of pay rent. It's a disease and this country seems very ill equipped to deal with it properly and can lead to what happened to the OP's friend. Not to mention the DEA and the drug war is not helping, at all.

To this day I still wish I had them, mainly for the headaches but also because I felt human when I took them in moderation. Getting high was not my intention, just management of pain. I would be sorely tempted to get back on them if I could, but I still won't break the law to do it.

I feel for the OP, it didn't have to end up like this

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. There are overdose reversal drugs available. They should be WIDELY available.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:53 PM
Oct 2013

Naloxone, also known as Narcan.

Depending on your state, cops and emergency medical providers should have it. Some states let anyone have it. It saves lives.

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
9. I am sure they tried that ...
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:02 PM
Oct 2013

This young man was in the Harborview Trauma Center and they are one of the best in the country.

When they found him he was clinically dead but revived him. During his time on life support he had violent seizures and was not conscious (as far as they knew). He was vibrant, very handsome, funny, and so smart like his brother who I love like a son. I am hoping the angels came to take him and let him know God is with him ...

Now I hope that God will also walk with his family who have a long journey ahead of them...

Love, Cat

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
18. It sounds like help arrived too late for this young man. Naloxone...
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:30 PM
Oct 2013

...needs to be administered on the spot. It can reverse overdoses, but it can't bring back the already dead.

ismnotwasm

(41,986 posts)
7. I'm so sorry for your loss
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:59 PM
Oct 2013

On of the things we are seeing in healthcare is kids coming from a underage party culture of stealing mom's OxyContin to the street culture of heroin use with no buffer, no street smarts, no "mentoring"

The war on drugs is an abject failure.

My sons best friend committed suicide, over a year ago over drugs. He was a talented musician. We're losing our kids, in numbers far to great.

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
11. I am seeing this too ;(
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:04 PM
Oct 2013

I just wish that our society would get a clue. It is not just marijuana we need to legalize. I wish they would understand addicts need help, not prison!

Love, Cat

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
12. Oxycodone is nasty stuff.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:07 PM
Oct 2013

I used it for a few days after major abdominal surgery and got off from it as soon as possible. Not an enjoyable experience for me other than it did knock down the pain to a bearable level.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
14. Fuck
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:25 PM
Oct 2013

So sorry to hear this. One of my best friends, a guy from a rich family with a daughter and everything to live for, is in prison for life because of this shit.

Also in Seattle as it happens.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
15. The oldest son of my best friend from college went the same way a few years ago....
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:31 PM
Oct 2013

What a sad waste of young lives with so much potential.

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