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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:14 AM Oct 2013

Reuters banner: Senate votes to kill House Republicans' request for formal negotiations...

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Senate votes to kill House Republicans' request for formal negotiations to end shutdown and modify Obamacare reforms

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Source: Reuters

Senate votes to kill Republican request for talks to end shutdown

WASHINGTON | Tue Oct 1, 2013 10:56am EDT

(Reuters) - The Democratic-led Senate on Tuesday voted to kill Republicans' latest attempts to modify an emergency government funding bill, just hours after federal agencies and national parks began shutting down.

The Senate voted on 54-46 along strict party lines to strip the proposed amendments from the spending bill, sending a "clean" measure back to the House of Representatives that would extend funding for government agencies until November 15.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
8. It appears that Boehner is in the position to unilaterally stop the wheels of critical law making.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:24 AM
Oct 2013

There's something terribly undemocratic, unpatriotic and dangerous about that.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
2. Good, as there is nothing to negotiate. They agree on the CR. The only difference is on Obamacare
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:16 AM
Oct 2013

which does not belong in the CR in the first place.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. I have mixed feelings about this tactic
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:19 AM
Oct 2013

I agree that the formal negotiations are ploy at this point - the Senate has been willing to sit down for months, to do it after the Government Shutdown is a stage for Republicans to demand capitulation on Healthcare.

That said, by not even going into the room, we are opening ourselves up to the charge that we aren't willing to even talk - we could go in the room and refuse any capitulation.

On the whole, though, despite my misgivings I think they are doing the right thing; going into the room just gives the illusion that this is a legislative negotiation rather than a hostage negotiation.

Bryant

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
7. We must not give legitimacy to the tactics being used by the House.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:22 AM
Oct 2013

They thumbed their collective nose at the mechanisms that are in place for negotiation...so who could reasonably assume any good will on their part at this time?

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
9. We can't - but we also can't count on the American people to see through these tactics
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:25 AM
Oct 2013

That's the rub.

Bryant

Response to el_bryanto (Reply #3)

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
4. I read that one senator, Tammy Baldwin maybe
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:20 AM
Oct 2013

said the dems had requested 18 times prior to yesterday, to meet in conference about the continuing CR and the repugs declined.

So now the repugnants want to go to conference after the fact, just to drag this out more and blame the dems for not agreeing to meet.

Of course our "liberal media" won't say that the dems had asked to meet in conference prior to this. I guess, according to Chuck Toad, that's not their job to inform the public.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
12. Well yes but that headline makes it seem like the Senate is being unreasonable.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:40 AM
Oct 2013

At this late hour after the shutdown has occurred, for the House extremists to insist on committee to 'negotiate' is ludicrous. They are going to string this out for the next two weeks then make it worse with the debt ceiling.

I think we are going to witness a complete breakdown of the government and our economy, which is exactly what they want.

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