Poll Indicates GOP Has Been Deeply Damaged By Shutdown Fight

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Poll Indicates GOP Has Been Deeply Damaged By Shutdown Fight

Republicans in Washington insist they have simply been upholding the wishes of the American people throughout their efforts to block the Affordable Care Act, but a poll released Tuesday tells a very different story.

In fact, the latest survey from Quinnipiac University contains a ton of bad news for the GOP. For starters, 72 percent of Americans said they are opposed to shutting down the government in order to block implemntation of the health care law. A poll last week also showed a wide majority opposed to shutting down the government over Obamacare.

The federal government shut down for the first time since 1996 on Tuesday morning amid Republican-led efforts to include policy concessions on the health care law in must-pass bills to fund the government.

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The poll showed that voters gave the nod to a generic Democrat over a generic Republican ahead of the 2014 congressional races, 43 percent to 34 percent. According to Quinnipiac, that's the widest advantage enjoyed by Democrats on that particular question.

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[pnwmom]

1. K & R

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2. Unfortunately...

43 to 34 isn't much of a margin, and probably not enough to kick out an incumbent without a bunch of advertising.

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8. I hope that you are right.

My wife tells me the Arkansas exchange opened at midnight last night and it took a long time to get on the site.

[snooper2]

10. Any website that opens up that has huge publicity before hand will have bandwidth issues-

You don't engineer for 20 million hits a minute when you expect 10,000 on a normal day

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14. They've certainly been advertising.

They've had ads on Hulu. They have an app (that I have downloaded) and even still I didn't know that it opened at midnight until my wife told me this morning.

Some folks must have been chomping at the bit to see what's going on. We have a red contingency in congress too, kind of surprising. That's one of the reasons why I think they're vulnerable. The word just needs to get out.

[BlueToTheBone]

11. I know several people who

are so happy to have the chance to have health insurance and health care. We are Number 2 in poverty and this is a godsend to so many here. Of course, our POS Womack voted to shut down the government.

His staff is very slimy and try to make it sound like he didn't vote to shut 'er down.

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17. I sent Tim Griffin an email.

I assume he's voting to shut down the government. He's a 'bagger'.

When the oil line burst in Lake Maumelle he was the first one on site bragging up the response time of the oil company responsible.

[BlueToTheBone]

18. I called Womack

His phone isn't nearly busy enough. I got through on the first ring. Some young woman answered and tried like hell to make it sound like Womack was voting for a clean CR. Of course he's not. I asked if she was being paid and she said NO; but then I asked if Womack was fronting her, she wouldn't answer, so I told I took that as a yes.

THen I suggested that it would be beneficial for her to lose her money for real, lose her house and then get an illness that wouldn't be covered because of the defunding of the ACA (she called it Obamacare-I informed her that the real title was ACA and she was rude) but then when I told her that she should have to suffer like the rest of the country, she told me I was mean spirited. lol Then she hung up on me. So, I called back and some man then answered and I told him they were a bunch of cowards and bullies since she wouldn't come back to the phone.

We then had a conversation about the bigotry and racism involved (she tried to tell me they weren't racist and this had nothing to do with the President being black; but she couldn't tell me any other reason for the shutdown.

These people are clueless, mean and basically willfully ignorant and stupid.

[marions ghost]

42. Whew--you called it!

Absolutely to the point. Good for you to fight back with those words.

They just want to hurt Obama.

[tulsakatz]

62. mean spirited

haha....mean spirited by someone suggesting she should live like much of the country lives!! That's not mean spirited, ffor many people it's reality!!

If her feelings are hurt so easily, she should probably look for a different job....

of course it's not racist! That's what they all say....

At this point, many republicans couldn't give you a real reason for the shutdown....it seems to change every day!

[truebluegreen]

12. Add in the spectacle the Republicans are making of themselves

doubling-down on stopping health care...there's a series of campaign ads writing themselves!

Of course, it is what they have to do. Showing that government can make an actual, positive difference in people's lives is the exact opposite of the Reagan revolution where "government isn't the solution, it's the problem" and the free market will take care of everything. And magic beans.

It's a death knell, and that's why they have been fighting tooth and nail to prevent the ACA from going into effect. Delay, defund, repeal (and "replace&quot , gum up the works--anything.

It would be funny if it weren't so destructive.

[Orsino]

15. If the shutdown ends in a day or two, few people will remember it a year from now. n/t

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16. True.

People will have to be reminded. It needs to be painted as irresponsible behavior to their constituents.

...and it's not the only despicable thing that they've been up to. It would be nice if someone compiled a list of legislation that they could have been working on instead of voting to repeal Obamacare these 40 some odd times.

[Mr.Turnip]

19. Well yeah, its "generic vs generic" so obviously it's only good as a vauge guideline

But if we actually had a situation where the total DEM House vote was 10% more than the total REP that would be a rather large margin and almost certainly win us the house even with the currently Gerrymandered districts so don't undercount it.

[Drunken Irishman]

34. 43-34 is historically a huge margin. Republicans 'only' won an 8-point margin in 2010.

A nine-point margin would be significant and potentially hand back the House to the Dems.

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48. I hope you're right. eom

[Coyotl]

3. Agreed. They will not dig themselves out of this hole.

[Eleanors38]

43. As a supporter of UBC & 2A, fair comparison. nt

[Ikonoklast]

4. They fucked themselves, big time. They let the Kochs do it to them, too.

If Republicans think that the Libertarian Kochs are on board with a Republican agenda, they are even bigger idiots that I thought they were.

The Republicans let themselves get used to promote the Koch astroturf Teabagger agenda, which has now split the Republican party in a civil war.

Libertarians don't give two fucks about anything except their own wallets, and the Republicans just found out too late that they made a deal with the Devil.


They got used worse than a rented mule.

[tofuandbeer]

31. The Kochs: that's what I've been thinking all along—they're pulling the strings here.

The GOP will never put common sense over dollars and cents.

[pffshht]

38. I wouldn't even fuck a Republican with someone else's Koch

So I'm glad the Devil has such low standards.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

53. Kochs aren't libertarian. They are corporatist and selfish. nt

[marble falls]

6. But they won!!!!

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4556536273766528&w=287&h=188&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7

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13. They're gonna bite us to death, aren't they?

[yonder]

56. thanks...

laughed my head off. A dose of MP to put things in perspective

[Sheepshank]

7. I'm tickled pink that Harry Reid et al

clearly paid Mike Lee his dues in all of this fiasco. Fetching A....name names and lets not be shy about it!!!

I see a movement here, to ensure that extreme baggers will get every single bad press available to toss them out asap.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. K&R

[leftyladyfrommo]

20. How can they be any more damaged than they already have been?

I don't think they care one wit about what the 99% think of them. They are there to please the 1%. And they have been well paid by the 1% to do just that.

Bunch of assholes.

[Hutzpa]

21. I've never seen a party this stubborn

this can only demonstrate that is they're banking on gerrymandering and re-district come 2014 election,
otherwise there is no way a party can be this utterly dismissive of it's constituents.

I just hope Eric Holder is doing everything within his power to stop gerrymandering and re-district.

[DirtyDawg]

22. Given that...

...we 'effed up' when we allowed the TeaPartiers to take control of the House, and especially the States, during a Census year so that they could create so many 'safe' Rethug Districts and so few Dems. Now these a-holes think they're bullet-proof. Well if those that still think they are 'Moderates' have any sense at all they'll rally the voters to 'primary' the wingnuts of the extreme right. Surely, after all this there are enough 'reasonable' Repugs left to salvage something of a Party...not that I give a damn if they survive at all, but the 'primary' knife ought to be able to cut both ways.

[sheshe2]

23. K&R!

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24. GOOD!!!!

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25. GOOD!!!!

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26. GOOD!!!!

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27. GOOD!!!!

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28. GOOD!!!!

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29. GOOD!!!!

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30. GOOD!!!!

[Pretzel_Warrior]

32. Lol

[NuclearDem]

37. GOOD!

[Raffi Ella]

40. Good!

[Eleanors38]

41. Good!!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. Please don't hold this thread hostage to 42 nested posts. nt

[WillyT]

33. K & R !!!

[Raffi Ella]

36. K&R

The poll showed that voters gave the nod to a generic Democrat over a generic Republican ahead of the 2014 congressional races, 43 percent to 34 percent. According to Quinnipiac, that's the widest advantage enjoyed by Democrats on that particular question.


Good to know. I saw some other thread in GD about how the "joke is on liberals"... she should come read this. Maybe it will make her feel better. or not.

[Arugula Latte]

39. Yet morons in red districts will keep sending them back to Congress.

We're a nation with too many fucking stupid people. That's the bottom line.

[Eleanors38]

44. Better, we need a real Democratic Party in those districts.

[OnionPatch]

46. Better yet

We need districts that are not gerrymandered. I can see how a party might not put out the effort if it takes three of their voters to equal one of the opposition. We should be screaming bloody murder about undemocratic, gerrymandered districts and doing everything possible to fix them.

[IronLionZion]

55. Yup, that was on the radio today

the ones pushing shutdown are from very red districts where their constituency doesn't think they benefit much from federal funding. And there are way too many of these types.

Republicans from more moderate urban areas or are up for statewide election have been largely silent or trying to compromise. Most state governors and senators and city mayors have been less vocal than the house members.

[totodeinhere]

45. Any political damage for the GOP is a good thing of course. But I'm not celebrating just yet.

In the meantime many good people are facing the prospect of losing paychecks and benefits. So this shutdown has both a positive and a negative side.

[malaise]

47. They are living in the same bubble where they dwelled

for the entire November elections. They listen only to their stupid, racist ignorant base.

[florida08]

49. yes dems got a 9% jump over the gop

and that will go up as this shutdown continues.

[tallahasseedem]

50. I want to see those numbers plummet even more...

the fact that they're this high is disconcerting.

[Rex]

51. That would explain the hair on fire hippie punching posts.

They are of a group always ready to blame their own party FIRST. Always giving cover to the GOP with their posts.

[Arugula Latte]

52. Yet the gun humpers, Bible thumpers and fetus worshippers will continue to prop them up.

[lonestarnot]

57. I think they've killed themselves!

Where's the dancing smiley?

[Cha]

58. And, that's in spite of all the effing Chuck Todding in

the world!

[hue]

59. Not damaged enough yet--I hope momentum snowballs!

[yuiyoshida]

60. May the party topple like...

A bad Janga game.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

61. kick