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Looks like I'm off tomorrow-- any other Federal employees here... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Oct 2013 OP
Hubby hasn't heard yet if he is "essential personnel". He is supposed to show up tomorrow whatever cry baby Oct 2013 #1
An IRS lawyer I know from Drinking Liberally in Philly is going to Maine to visit his dad. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #2
Wife works at a miltary hospital as a civilan employee. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #3
Yep. Ready to get my SF8 tomorrow. NutmegYankee Oct 2013 #4
Be in tomorrow to do the furlough paperwork. Llewlladdwr Oct 2013 #5
Again? That's because this is a relatively new job for you, right? SheilaT Oct 2013 #7
Again because of the furlough I just went through due to sequestration. Llewlladdwr Oct 2013 #9
Aaah. I'm sorry to say I forgot about that. SheilaT Oct 2013 #12
I wish we could take leave instead of furlough, that would help a lot. Llewlladdwr Oct 2013 #14
Go in the morning Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #6
I had planned to work for NASA after graduating in late 2011 johnd83 Oct 2013 #8
I've got a couple of relatives who are federal civilians and who saw this coming. MADem Oct 2013 #10
they are expected to report back the day the shutdown ends CreekDog Oct 2013 #22
They took leave. nt MADem Oct 2013 #25
there is no leave during a government shutdown CreekDog Oct 2013 #26
They started the leave before the shutdown. MADem Oct 2013 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Oct 2013 #28
Excuse me, I know where they are--they just emailed me pictures. MADem Oct 2013 #29
You were making it sound as though they were on leave and would be paid CreekDog Oct 2013 #30
I did not say a single thing about their "pay." Jeez. MADem Oct 2013 #31
Their leave is only canceled for pay purposes. Only military has to return to station. haele Oct 2013 #44
I work at FEMA still going to work but will not get paid. RGinNJ Oct 2013 #11
Yep. wickerwoman Oct 2013 #20
My ex works for the SBA doing disaster property assessment and relief thecrow Oct 2013 #13
if he is essential he'll work without pay CreekDog Oct 2013 #23
Dandy! I'm sure he will LOVE that! thecrow Oct 2013 #40
Hubby is a contract worker doing FAA related job FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #15
he won't get a paycheck until the shutdown ends CreekDog Oct 2013 #24
Not exactly SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2013 #42
Correct. Thanks for verification. Sorry about your check though. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #43
It's OK SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2013 #45
Wow, so am I hootinholler Oct 2013 #37
Checking in. Can't sleep. I don't have to physically show up, though. I can check in from home. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #16
Hi Liberal Stalwart.. I thought I remembered Cha Oct 2013 #33
Yep. The agency whose programs affect the poor the most. 98% of the agency is furloughed. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #38
I'm so sorry, LS.. :( Cha Oct 2013 #41
I'm hanging in there. I hope you do, too! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #46
catwoman works for the government madrchsod Oct 2013 #17
Got a call after midnight est madville Oct 2013 #18
That's pretty much the way I feel... TreasonousBastard Oct 2013 #19
VA hospitals still up and running rainbow4321 Oct 2013 #21
My husband does contract work with the government qanda Oct 2013 #32
In Afghanistan... still working... ha! Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #34
Go in. Sign furlough paperwork. BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #35
Don't sweat it! Eventually you'll get paid and it will seem like a paid vacation! randome Oct 2013 #36
Don't count on it. Not with this Teabag Congress. They absolutely hate us! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #39

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. Wife works at a miltary hospital as a civilan employee.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:09 AM
Oct 2013

She will not know until she arrives for work tomorrow morning.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
5. Be in tomorrow to do the furlough paperwork.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:11 AM
Oct 2013

We've been told we'll be allowed up to four hours for that, then I guess I'll head home and file for unemployment again. Shit's gettin' old....

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. Again? That's because this is a relatively new job for you, right?
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:13 AM
Oct 2013

The last government shut down was 17 years ago.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
9. Again because of the furlough I just went through due to sequestration.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:15 AM
Oct 2013

That was the first time I ever filed for unemplyment in my life. I was hoping not to have to do so again.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
12. Aaah. I'm sorry to say I forgot about that.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:21 AM
Oct 2013

My company is making us all take extra time off, but we can at least use our own leave time for it. Lucky me, I have lots of hours accrued so I'm not out any money. And it's just random days, not blocks of time as you had to do.

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
14. I wish we could take leave instead of furlough, that would help a lot.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:33 AM
Oct 2013

Unfortunately, not an option. Good luck to you though, hope y'all can avoid the worst!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. I've got a couple of relatives who are federal civilians and who saw this coming.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:20 AM
Oct 2013

They booked a cruise...!

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
22. they are expected to report back the day the shutdown ends
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:03 AM
Oct 2013

how do they go more than a day's distance away?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. They started the leave before the shutdown.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:08 AM
Oct 2013

They'll be home in a couple of days--they got a last minute deal on an unfilled cabin.

Response to MADem (Reply #27)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. Excuse me, I know where they are--they just emailed me pictures.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:20 AM
Oct 2013

I know what federal agencies they work for, too.

Their leave can be cancelled all you want, but it's cancelled while they float around the Caribbean.

Why don't you learn from this and quit arguing--you are terribly obtuse if you actually think that someone who started their leave before the shut down, and has left the region where they work, is suddenly expected to return to their office to "check out." I'll email them and tell 'em you insisted they start swimming, how's that?

Ya know, I was on the military end of things during the Newtie shut down. I didn't demand that my civilian workers on leave pop in to give me their passwords or do anything of that nature. Everyone called in and I dealt with the ones I had to deal with on pending issues, and we did the best we could with a military staff going forward. A lot just didn't get done.

CreekDog
28. Do you think they get leave during a shutdown?
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are you really going to argue this?

their leave during the shutdown is cancelled.

period. if congress decides to pay for the furlough days during the shutdown, they may be paid, but only if.

they are no longer in leave status.

learn from this and quit arguing and if you don't believe me look up something, it won't kill you to learn that you were wrong.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
30. You were making it sound as though they were on leave and would be paid
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:23 AM
Oct 2013

which they won't be.

yes, if they are physically unable to report they will likely be excused even in unpaid status.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. I did not say a single thing about their "pay." Jeez.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:27 AM
Oct 2013

They got a super cheap unsold, last minute cabin on a nice ship. They put in for leave and took off. They knew the likelihood was that the GOP would pull the trigger and they wouldn't have to work, and they both have difficult, high stress, lots-of-work jobs, so they rolled the dice and figured they could get away with having a holiday, since no one else was likely to be working either.

haele

(12,659 posts)
44. Their leave is only canceled for pay purposes. Only military has to return to station.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:29 PM
Oct 2013

We've got three govvies on leave here at the office (a DoD site); the notices were sent out to their homes, the supervisor had to sign an affidavit that he sent it to them, and a message left to not come back in until the government is booted back up into full operational mode. However, all military who were on leave have to check in to get new orders; even then, after the check-in, they can continue their leave unless the command wants to use them to backfill for a civilian who was furloughed.
Some of us scummy contractors are left holding down the fort and trying to keep the level of the workload manageable under the watchful eye of various military members until the govvies come back, due to the nature of our funding. That is, if the CDO is going to extend duty tasking to maintaining the offices; if not, we go home and work piles up and up and up...

Upshot for now, if the govvies aren't "essential", they're not required to come back until the furlough is over.

Haele

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
20. Yep.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:37 AM
Oct 2013

My parents both worked through the last furlough (a month) without pay.

People who complain about lazy, entitled government employees can go fuck themselves.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
23. if he is essential he'll work without pay
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:05 AM
Oct 2013

if he's non essential he'll not work.

and ethics rules will likely prevent him from trying to make money during the shutdown by working in his own field, using his own expertise.

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
15. Hubby is a contract worker doing FAA related job
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:58 AM
Oct 2013

and he will continue to work. However, many others in his office will not because they are federal employees. They set up the contingencies today in preparation. Guess he'll be working extra hours but no extra pay. Still, he gets a paycheck so it's ok.

Sorry for all the federal workers who will do without. Damn republicans.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
24. he won't get a paycheck until the shutdown ends
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:06 AM
Oct 2013

essential employees have to work even though there's no way to pay them.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
42. Not exactly
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:35 PM
Oct 2013

No pay for government workers that are working, but contractors that are working will be paid on time. In-force contracts are funded with FY13 money, so as long as that money lasts, contractors will continue to work with pay.

My ex-wife is a contractor, she's working with pay, I'm a federal employee, I'm not working and no pay. Was in for an hour this morning to sign my letter, turn on my out-of-office message and go home.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
45. It's OK
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 06:15 PM
Oct 2013

I have some savings, and if this drags out, I can apply for unemployment.

I feel for the people I work - a number of single moms and lower GS ranks that don't make much as it is. This could be devastating for them.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
37. Wow, so am I
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 08:10 AM
Oct 2013

Unfortunately, my programming skills are not considered essential. We should have specifics from my employer around 10 or so.

There's a chance I could be picked up by a project we are doing for Ireland while the Fed is closed. Fingers crossed.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
16. Checking in. Can't sleep. I don't have to physically show up, though. I can check in from home.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:07 AM
Oct 2013

Set up an Out of Office message on my email. Set up voicemail. That's it.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
38. Yep. The agency whose programs affect the poor the most. 98% of the agency is furloughed.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 09:17 AM
Oct 2013

I just completed the formal shutdown procedures. My boss just called to tell me that the chances of us getting back pay is zero.

madville

(7,412 posts)
18. Got a call after midnight est
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:30 AM
Oct 2013

Was told not to come to work until further notice. Honestly I welcome the time off, between my two jobs I have had one day off the last two months.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
19. That's pretty much the way I feel...
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:33 AM
Oct 2013

the Fed job is part time and I can probably make up the hours later this month.

Gives me some time to relax, but there are others who need the income.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
21. VA hospitals still up and running
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:54 AM
Oct 2013

I work at one and the email they sent said that since our funding is already in place, workers won't be effected. Business and jobs as usual...everyone expected to report to work.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. Don't sweat it! Eventually you'll get paid and it will seem like a paid vacation!
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 06:31 AM
Oct 2013

According to some idiot on Al Sharpton last night.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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