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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts) Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:26 PM Sep 2013

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So basically this entire thing is the Republicans throwing a national temper tantrum.

All because the ACA passed and was upheld by the courts.

Am I wrong, or is it really just as simple as that?

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So basically this entire thing is the Republicans throwing a national temper tantrum. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 OP

Yes, it is as simple as that, elleng Sep 2013 #1

Yep. And they are throwing said tantrum on an international stage. PDJane Sep 2013 #2

Well, understandably, they are Ayn Rand fans. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #3

That and they Hate Obama and that he won... yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #4

"Spare the rod, spoil the child." 1000words Sep 2013 #5

Not that simple. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #6

elleng

(130,912 posts)

1. Yes, it is as simple as that,

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:31 PM

Sep 2013

but underlying it, they hate POTUS. Feels like they hate him more than they hated B. Clinton, but they're really good haters.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)

2. Yep. And they are throwing said tantrum on an international stage.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:34 PM

Sep 2013

Do they know or care what it looks like to people outside the US?

We all get CNN and MSNBC too, y'see.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)

3. Well, understandably, they are Ayn Rand fans.

Reply to PDJane (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:40 PM

Sep 2013

And Ayn Rand's literature is all about rich people throwing temper tantrums for things not going their way.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)

4. That and they Hate Obama and that he won...

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:42 PM

Sep 2013

They can not stand him...and if they can not shut down the government, they will try and have him impeached.

1000words

(7,051 posts)

5. "Spare the rod, spoil the child."

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:51 PM

Sep 2013

Nice to see Obama calling their bluff. When he was "reaching across the aisle," it should have been to smack them.

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)

6. Not that simple.

Reply to Tommy_Carcetti (Original post)

Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:31 PM

Sep 2013

Sure, they hate the ACA and they hate Obama. But what they really hate is the idea that government can solve problems for average people, make their lives better, make them more secure.

The entire Reagun revolution was based on the idea that government is the problem, that if we just get government out of the way, then everything will be great, for everybody. Cut taxes, cut regulations, cut safety nets, and the free market will provide, wealth will trickle down, a rising tide lifts all boats blah blah blah.

A program like this, especially addressing a huge problem for an overwhelming portion of the population--even those with insurance have seen their rates rise by double-digits every year, seen coverage delayed and denied when it was needed, seen huge profits by insurance companies--a program like this, with its potential impact, could drive a stake through Ronnie Raygun's vampire heart.

There is a long way to go, both on medical care and Reagun's legacy, but it is a step forward.

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