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JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:24 PM Sep 2013

Let's not forget who helped write the Affordable Care Act.

Last edited Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Long before they hung the name "Obamacare" on the bill, House Republicans insisted on a seat at the table for laying the foundation of the Affordable Care Act. It's odd that we don't hear about that anymore.

What began as a single payer system akin to Medicare soon became a watered down parody of itself as Republicans (and more than a few Democrats) bowed to their campaign funders, the insurance companies. Republicans insisted that instead of Hillarycare, the new reform be modeled after Romneycare with a mandatory participation clause. That made insurance companies very happy to hear they would enjoy an increased customer base in the near future.

I still remember the shock when every single one of the House Republicans voted no on the bill. I was in disbelief, as were so many here, that Republicans would shun a bill they worked so hard to craft in their own image. By the time it was delivered, it featured every wet dream a Republican could hope for except maybe tax cuts for Exxon.

To hear the GOP now, you'd think this Obamacare was shoved down their throats by a cruel dictator intent on supreme power. It's like it fell from the sky in the dust of a visiting comet as Republicans suddenly woke up one morning and discovered a health care law still smoking in a crater in their back yards.

Unlike the Tea Party, I wasn't born in 2009, and I still remember how Obamacare came to be, and someone should remind them.

On edit: This was the first of what would become a five year pattern of betrayal when Obama reached across the aisle to get legislature passed.

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Let's not forget who helped write the Affordable Care Act. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Sep 2013 OP
The irony doesn't end there: 1000words Sep 2013 #1
Welcome to DU! Hydra Sep 2013 #3
Thanks, Hydra 1000words Sep 2013 #6
Thank you! Hydra Sep 2013 #9
You've been here not even two weeks. name not needed Sep 2013 #7
Does my official time here diminish my observation at all? 1000words Sep 2013 #13
He's been here watching Hydra Sep 2013 #16
That's what kills me. It's a Republican "reform" written by the insurance industry duffyduff Sep 2013 #17
thank you... stillcool Sep 2013 #2
They showed up long enough to claim they 'tried to work with Democrats' then pulled out stevenleser Sep 2013 #4
That was our party's fault Hydra Sep 2013 #5
the problems that will inevitably show up in this law will give republicans ammo to say that liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #8
I'm sure that's the plan Hydra Sep 2013 #10
exactly. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #12
revisionism joshcryer Sep 2013 #11
It is. I remember that vividly. stevenleser Sep 2013 #14
If you time traveled (in the fictional sense) from DU in 2008 to DU today Fumesucker Sep 2013 #15
And Defending the NSA/War of Terror Hydra Sep 2013 #18
 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
1. The irony doesn't end there:
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:33 PM
Sep 2013

Democrats on this very site are regularly accused of being Republican trolls for having fundamental issues with what you just established as a Republican healthcare model.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
3. Welcome to DU!
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:47 PM
Sep 2013

And remember, as long as our side does it, it's holy...no matter if it was a Republican idea.

name not needed

(11,660 posts)
7. You've been here not even two weeks.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:53 PM
Sep 2013

I don't think you're in any position to bitch about people being run off.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
17. That's what kills me. It's a Republican "reform" written by the insurance industry
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:07 PM
Sep 2013

as a handout to them, not to help people, but I guess because Obama signed off on it, it's okay.

It isn't. It's got more holes in it than a slab of Swiss cheese.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
2. thank you...
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:42 PM
Sep 2013

for reminding me....I went to a rally in Boston shortly after Teddy Kennedy died. A beautiful, but bittersweet day. I must say, I am surprised we've gotten this far.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. They showed up long enough to claim they 'tried to work with Democrats' then pulled out
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:49 PM
Sep 2013

claiming what was being drawn up was horrible. It was theatre, nothing more.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. That was our party's fault
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:51 PM
Sep 2013

Either deliberately or due to gross lack of political sense.

The Repubs made it clear they were going to happily vote against it and make Obama own their program. Instead of saying "To hell with it, we're going Dem!" they did what they did instead.

If this less than amazing insurance reform doesn't work, the Repubs will be able to say they tried to stop it, even though it's their baby.

Crazy world, huh?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
8. the problems that will inevitably show up in this law will give republicans ammo to say that
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:53 PM
Sep 2013

any government health care is a failure. Any problems that come up will make any meaningful changes all but impossible. Instead the republicans will try again and again to completely get rid of any kind of government health care and they will use problems in the ACA as an excuse. We should have done it right from the start, but instead we got a for profit insurance health care model.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
10. I'm sure that's the plan
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:56 PM
Sep 2013

Why our party thought they should play along with that is a mystery.

The supporters of the ACA say it will lead to single payer, but I'm reminded of Winston Churchill's words:

"We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities."

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
14. It is. I remember that vividly.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:01 PM
Sep 2013

I don't think the Republicans participated for more than 2-3 weeks in May-June 2009. Then they all pulled out claiming that what was being drawn up was something they couldn't support. While they were participating, reports came out that they were disruptive and totally unhelpful during the meetings.

They only participated long enough to where they could then pull out and claim it was a mess. I remember fighting with Neil Cavuto about that during a particular acrimonious appearance on his show in June 2009.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. If you time traveled (in the fictional sense) from DU in 2008 to DU today
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:04 PM
Sep 2013

This place would be all but incomprehensible.

The hill the Democrats have chosen to die on in 2013 is mandated private insurance.

~blink~




Hydra

(14,459 posts)
18. And Defending the NSA/War of Terror
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:42 PM
Sep 2013

I would have said you were nuts if you told me these things back then...but then I would have remembered the FISA gutting vote, and said "Sign of things to come?"

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